New Year's Eve Announcement?

Pioneer Hall

Well-Known Member
They will likely stagger things and almost assuredly run the park in EMH type mode where many attractions are closed ... I tried to do a 3 a.m. night back in May and had to leave and head to the GF because at 1:20, the ONLY place open for any type of food and beverage service was the bakery, which doesn't count to me.

NOTHING else. No Dole Whip stand. No Casey's hot dogs. No ice cream. Certainly no Pecos Bill's or Cosmic Ray's.

I would REALLY hope Disney will actively keep most of the park open, including dining venues ALL NIGHT but I am not sure someone like Phil Holmes is capable of grasping the fact people may get hungry during the night!

Starting to think about asking some other MAGICal dude if he wants to attempt an all-nighter just so we can look at how many of the folks in the park are REAL people and how many are social media whores. :wave:

I have a feeling this will be correct to a degree as well, but hopefully they give a bit more. I also hope that do have the insight to keep at least one quick serve eatery open throughout most of the night (I guess I could understand shutting down Pecos Bills at 3 or 4 am). As of now it looks like I am going to be there (hopefully crowds aren't too bad) and I am interested in seeing how this turns out. I sincerely hope this doesn't turn into another 40th anniversary mess which was probably one of the worst days I have ever spent in WDW.
 

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
I have a feeling this will be correct to a degree as well, but hopefully they give a bit more. I also hope that do have the insight to keep at least one quick serve eatery open throughout most of the night (I guess I could understand shutting down Pecos Bills at 3 or 4 am). As of now it looks like I am going to be there (hopefully crowds aren't too bad) and I am interested in seeing how this turns out. I sincerely hope this doesn't turn into another 40th anniversary mess which was probably one of the worst days I have ever spent in WDW.

I stayed away on 10/1 because I well understood what was going to happen.
Believe it or not, but I really am getting tired of being right most of the time!

I would hope Phil (he used to read me regularly on LP, have no idea about here) or whomever monitors these boards would be smart enough to take some FREE consulting and make sure that at least two eateries are open for most (or all) of the night. Denny's can keep all its units open 24/7. I'd think Disney could handle keeping 1-2 QSRs going all night.

I'd also (again, I can be paid well for advice like this) advise Disney to truly pull out all the stops ... have live entertainment and characters out most of the night ... maybe a special event or two that aren't announced until the night itself.

That's some very smart and FREE Spirited advice.

Now, why do I feel like Disney is still gonna run this like a typical late night EMH?
 

Pioneer Hall

Well-Known Member
I stayed away on 10/1 because I well understood what was going to happen.
Believe it or not, but I really am getting tired of being right most of the time!

I would hope Phil (he used to read me regularly on LP, have no idea about here) or whomever monitors these boards would be smart enough to take some FREE consulting and make sure that at least two eateries are open for most (or all) of the night. Denny's can keep all its units open 24/7. I'd think Disney could handle keeping 1-2 QSRs going all night.

I'd also (again, I can be paid well for advice like this) advise Disney to truly pull out all the stops ... have live entertainment and characters out most of the night ... maybe a special event or two that aren't announced until the night itself.

That's some very smart and FREE Spirited advice.

Now, why do I feel like Disney is still gonna run this like a typical late night EMH?

Well I guess I knew what to expect that day (or not expect), in terms of what Disney was doing. I knew that there wasn't going to be much in the way of celebrating. I think that my problem was that I underestimated the crowds. I knew it would be crowded, but I really didn't think it was going to be as bad as it was. I ended up spending most of my day outside of the MK and promptly left after wishes because it was just miserable. It also didn't help that there were a number of "fans" who had a me first mentality that day which made me a bit disgusted at points.
 

disney fan 13

Well-Known Member
I stayed away on 10/1 because I well understood what was going to happen.
Believe it or not, but I really am getting tired of being right most of the time!

I would hope Phil (he used to read me regularly on LP, have no idea about here) or whomever monitors these boards would be smart enough to take some FREE consulting and make sure that at least two eateries are open for most (or all) of the night. Denny's can keep all its units open 24/7. I'd think Disney could handle keeping 1-2 QSRs going all night.

I'd also (again, I can be paid well for advice like this) advise Disney to truly pull out all the stops ... have live entertainment and characters out most of the night ... maybe a special event or two that aren't announced until the night itself.

That's some very smart and FREE Spirited advice.

Now, why do I feel like Disney is still gonna run this like a typical late night EMH?

But Denny's food is terrible and Disney's food is.... oh wait.... never mind:lookaroun
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
No
That's some very smart and FREE Spirited advice.

Now, why do I feel like Disney is still gonna run this like a typical late night EMH?

Because now that you spouted your "free" advice they want to make sure there's no possible way for you to take credit? :shrug:
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
FWIW, I can *HIGHLY* recommend the Denny's across from Disneyland. To anyone who's never been to Disneyland and doesn't mean that I really mean "across", imagine walking out of the turnstyles at Epcot - if you walk all the way to the furthest end of the Resort pick-up, that's about how far it is to walk from the turnstyles to the Denny's at Disneyland (5 minute walk at max).

Busy as all heck, especially in the morning, but they run like a well oiled machine, I've never seen such a clean, well-kept, and fully staffed Denny's. Plus the food was great, everything we got was super fresh (we went four times first trip). And you've got me when you'll make me a double cheeseburger at 8AM. ;)
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
:lol:

Yeah, OK.

The Macy's Parade is a live (albeit, lip synched) parade that actually looks like a parade and has entertainment for the entire family. Disney's "parade" was a 2 hour taped, horribly edited commercial for Disney Parks, with the occasional character float headed down Main Street, with God Awful "musicians" pretending to sing, while 10 year old girls were directed to scream for them.

Let's not also forget that the Macy's parade is LIVE...you know, happening at the time of broadcast?

The Disney version is taped over several days three weeks earlier. And edited together over those weeks, and THIS is the best they came up with?

Whereas Macy's is a live show, it's Emmy material compared to what they put out in this special this year.

To give some perspective, a few years ago I was at the MK for a taping day in early Dec. Those "guests" who stand in the route are really more "extras" then guests. They stand in the same spot all day, responding to orders to "look happy!" "look festive!" "cheer now!" when often times nothing is actually happening in front of them.

The park was actually pretty slow once you got past Main Street. For the very short period Regis and Kelly were there (you could almost make them out with a zoom lens, they have that whole area so blocked off you can't get within 100's of feet of them, and they are only there very briefly), and then they run the same float up and down Main Street three or four times, stop, an hour later run another one, etc. It's about as artificial as it can be.

So once I got past that mess, the park itself was great. In early afternoon I was in Liberty Square, and I heard someone singing "Silent Night" over a loud speaker. When I walked towards the Castle, there was Beyonce. It was pretty cool, seeing her sing it. And then again. I got down in the crowd, and actually pretty close to the front. However, it kept misting out, and people kept leaving because the "director" was yelling at everyone to take off any rain gear, umbrellas, etc. lest the scene not look perfect, as Beyonce sang the song for the 5th or 6th time. (She was a trooper, in a white gown that wouldn't have done well wet, but she didn't stop unless they told her too.)

After the 8th or 9th time hearing the song, even I got bored and walked away. They kept fighting to keep people from leaving the area because they needed a crowd, but how long can one stand and watch Beyonce sing the same song. As cool as it was, people wanted to go about their day at the MK, and the attitude of the people filming wasn't terribly welcoming. To this day I have no idea how many times that poor girl sang that day, it was easily a dozen.

Martin can correct me if I am wrong, but I think why he and others find the show rather offensive is that, in SPITE of the fact they filmed all this stuff over and over, and had three weeks to edit it, they still did a crappy job. Hand Martin the raw footage, and he could have had something 10x better in half the time. It just was very lazily done.

Personally, it's the "pretend" thing I don't care for. It wasn't until only a few years ago that they stopped trying to pretend it was live when the fact that it isn't became obvious. Regis and Kelly talk so much about their lives, they couldn't keep up the, "We spent Xmas in Aruba with the Seinfelds, but oh yeah, we flew in to Orlando real quick for the parade and went back..." That and them needing people on the Internet to sign up to sit on Main Street all day and give them reaction shots.

It just could be done so much better, and the fakey fake-ness turns a lot of people off. One could argue that Disney is all about the fake, which is a fair assessment - but the thing is, that fake was always based on heart, somewhere. Bringing the popular pop stars of the moment into "spontaneous" performances that are contrived is fine, but when that's all it is and there isn't a single genuine moment in the entire thing - it's gotten boring, and has lost every once of charm.
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
No
I'd enter the contest but I don't need to. I'm loaded.:)





extreme sarcasm is found in this post

Me too, I'm just entering to keep as much of the Riff-Raff out as I can. Sort of a Public Service to my fellow Fanbois. :cool:







ditto
 

COProgressFan

Well-Known Member
Let's not also forget that the Macy's parade is LIVE...you know, happening at the time of broadcast?

The Disney version is taped over several days three weeks earlier. And edited together over those weeks, and THIS is the best they came up with?

Whereas Macy's is a live show, it's Emmy material compared to what they put out in this special this year.

To give some perspective, a few years ago I was at the MK for a taping day in early Dec. Those "guests" who stand in the route are really more "extras" then guests. They stand in the same spot all day, responding to orders to "look happy!" "look festive!" "cheer now!" when often times nothing is actually happening in front of them.

The park was actually pretty slow once you got past Main Street. For the very short period Regis and Kelly were there (you could almost make them out with a zoom lens, they have that whole area so blocked off you can't get within 100's of feet of them, and they are only there very briefly), and then they run the same float up and down Main Street three or four times, stop, an hour later run another one, etc. It's about as artificial as it can be.

So once I got past that mess, the park itself was great. In early afternoon I was in Liberty Square, and I heard someone singing "Silent Night" over a loud speaker. When I walked towards the Castle, there was Beyonce. It was pretty cool, seeing her sing it. And then again. I got down in the crowd, and actually pretty close to the front. However, it kept misting out, and people kept leaving because the "director" was yelling at everyone to take off any rain gear, umbrellas, etc. lest the scene not look perfect, as Beyonce sang the song for the 5th or 6th time. (She was a trooper, in a white gown that wouldn't have done well wet, but she didn't stop unless they told her too.)

After the 8th or 9th time hearing the song, even I got bored and walked away. They kept fighting to keep people from leaving the area because they needed a crowd, but how long can one stand and watch Beyonce sing the same song. As cool as it was, people wanted to go about their day at the MK, and the attitude of the people filming wasn't terribly welcoming. To this day I have no idea how many times that poor girl sang that day, it was easily a dozen.

Martin can correct me if I am wrong, but I think why he and others find the show rather offensive is that, in SPITE of the fact they filmed all this stuff over and over, and had three weeks to edit it, they still did a crappy job. Hand Martin the raw footage, and he could have had something 10x better in half the time. It just was very lazily done.

Personally, it's the "pretend" thing I don't care for. It wasn't until only a few years ago that they stopped trying to pretend it was live when the fact that it isn't became obvious. Regis and Kelly talk so much about their lives, they couldn't keep up the, "We spent Xmas in Aruba with the Seinfelds, but oh yeah, we flew in to Orlando real quick for the parade and went back..." That and them needing people on the Internet to sign up to sit on Main Street all day and give them reaction shots.

It just could be done so much better, and the fakey fake-ness turns a lot of people off. One could argue that Disney is all about the fake, which is a fair assessment - but the thing is, that fake was always based on heart, somewhere. Bringing the popular pop stars of the moment into "spontaneous" performances that are contrived is fine, but when that's all it is and there isn't a single genuine moment in the entire thing - it's gotten boring, and has lost every once of charm.

Wow, well said. "Fakey fakeness" is a perfect description of whatever that parade was.

Disney used to be a master of putting on a show, whether in the parks, in movies, or on television. Clearly they have lost their knack for such things, or just don't even care about their own product anymore.
 

Captain Chaos

Well-Known Member
Wow, well said. "Fakey fakeness" is a perfect description of whatever that parade was.

Disney used to be a master of putting on a show, whether in the parks, in movies, or on television. Clearly they have lost their knack for such things, or just don't even care about their own product anymore.

You are right. They don't care about their product anymore. It is all about catering to the lowest common denominator. Why care when they have people on fansites defending their every cheap move? Why care when they have their social media zombies praising their every cheap move? Why care when they send out their hawks and cheerleaders to shout down those who bring to light their DECLINE??? We see and hear it all the time, how TDO knows what they are doing and how great every move they make is... With those kinds of attitudes, why should they care? Why should they change?
 

alissafalco

Well-Known Member
Wow, well said. "Fakey fakeness" is a perfect description of whatever that parade was.

Disney used to be a master of putting on a show, whether in the parks, in movies, or on television. Clearly they have lost their knack for such things, or just don't even care about their own product anymore.

I'm bummed that they showed the old picture of the proposed Fantasyland construction, not the new updated Fantasyland photo. What's up with that?? Did anyone else notice that??
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HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
What if Disney threw all of us a curveball next Christmas and actually held the Christmas Day Parade LIVE on Christmas Day???

What? I can dream, can't I? You know, "When you wish upon a star...", and "A dream is a wish your heart makes", et al. :lol:
 

Communicore

Well-Known Member
I will be attending the 24 hours event, even though I've been in there close to 24 hrs before as a CM, heh heh! Hope there's plenty of food in there, and not just Casey's and the bakery. I'm referring to Pecos and Cosmic's, :ROFLOL:
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
I will be attending the 24 hours event, even though I've been in there close to 24 hrs before as a CM, heh heh! Hope there's plenty of food in there, and not just Casey's and the bakery. I'm referring to Pecos and Cosmic's, :ROFLOL:

The one year I went for the Halloween party, they started shutting down food around 8. We were lucky to get one of the last hot dogs of the night.
 

Communicore

Well-Known Member
I can see the bakery being the only one open although I really hope it's like Grad Nite and Cosmic's remain open....they will probably be like, "The bakery has a diverse choice, there is stacked sandwiches, cinnamon rolls and bagels, no one wants hot dogs, burgers and salads at this time!" :ROFLOL:
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
I can see the bakery being the only one open although I really hope it's like Grad Nite and Cosmic's remain open....they will probably be like, "The bakery has a diverse choice, there is stacked sandwiches, cinnamon rolls and bagels, no one wants hot dogs, burgers and salads at this time!" :ROFLOL:

I consider myself an expert at late night meals from my younger years. The bars here close at 4am and I tend to think between midnight and 6am it should be fair game on all kinds of food. If MK served alcohol there would be rioting if you could only get cookies, or muffins. I really wish I could go and enjoy the park this late but the announcement plus the related free day promotion is not nearly enough to throw together a trip in just a few short weeks. The timing for this was just beyond silly and really poor.
 

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