dothebrdwalk
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I think it's still too exclusive. Doesn't "seem fair to members that just anyone can access the club." (I KNOW IT SOUNDS DUMB BUT THAT IS THE MINDSET IM ASSUMING)
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New World of Dreams VIP tour
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Seems like $12K would just about cover the initiation fee... especially for a one-time visit.
BigThunderMatt
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There are special rules governing how the suite is used and one of those is that it cannot be 'bought'. Even when celebrities stay in there, they aren't actually paying for it. Typically it's the company trying to cut a deal with a celebrity for something else and they use a night in the suite to sweeten the pot. Night stays in the suite are only given out as promotional prizes. People stay in it more often than you'd think but they've always won some sort of contest to be in it.
MickeyMinnieMom
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The night stay doesn’t make any sense at all. Unless they’re only running one of these tours a day!!
Or you have to fight the other families touring in a death match for who gets the suite that night... :-D
not even close to the initiation fee.
lentesta
Premium Member
Assuming they're selling more than one of these per day, and that the people want to stay there.
eliza61nyc
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no it's 12 K for up to 6 person. 12K for the day
MickeyMinnieMom
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Do you really think they won't sell more than one per day?!? Especially with SWGE coming up? And I'd suspect a majority would want to stay there if that was an option. Unless they've changed the rules/terms about staying in the suite, as @BigThunderMatt said, this wouldn't be an option.
You have to read the whole sentence -- "FOR A ONE-TIME VISIT" I think it would be sufficient.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Rules made by Disney that can be changed at anytime.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
throw in a tomorrowland cabana tent and now we're talking 
lentesta
Premium Member
I'd be surprised if they sold more than 2 per day. It's 3x the cost of a regular VIP tour, and most families just want to avoid lines and hassles. I could be completely wrong.
lentesta
Premium Member
I think it's almost unprecedented for modern management to keep old rules in the face of new, large revenue opportunities. There's too much pressure on every part of Parks to increase revenue every quarter.
Besides this, are there any operations rules from, say, 20 years ago that haven't been affected by the need to increase earnings?
That's an upcharge...throw in a tomorrowland cabana tent and now we're talking
$12,000 a night with an 80% occupancy rate would only result in $3,500,000.00 in revenue. It will not make that big a difference in the profitability of MK. And I doubt they will get 80% an occupancy rate. They will most likely get about 50 nights a year at $12,000 with another 25 nights at $10,000. While its a lot of money, it only amounts to pennies per attendee of the Magic Kingdom. In fact, with an attendance of 20 million a year, an average of 2 drinks a day per person means just a 5 cents increase in drink prices means $4,000,000 more in revenue.
MickeyMinnieMom
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I suspect you're wrong. There are many VIP tours out on any given day. At least some of them -- and maybe a new audience -- will sign up for this. While it might not be the case every day, I'm sure they could ultimately book more than one a day. No reason for them to limit it.
And I've been in that castle suite. I remember it being SMALL -- would 6 people even sleep in there comfortably?
disneyflush
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If the castle suite count be booked by the general public for $25,000/night, what would its occupancy rate be for the year? Assuming celebrities, super wealthy, crowd funding, bucket list types, would it hit 75% or is that low?
Though it’s technically a room in the Contemporary room portfolio, the suite is a nightmare from an operational perspective. Guests are basically prisoners overnight. There’s no apparatus for food, amenities, housekeeping and anything else.
They’d be better off converting the whole thing to a private dining opportunity like they did at Disneyland.
They’d be better off converting the whole thing to a private dining opportunity like they did at Disneyland.
Given that nearly all of WDW's deluxe suites are also at ridiculously high prices and seem to maintain a near 100% occupancy rate I am going to say it would be about the same.
The Bridge Suite at the Atlantis Resort in Nassau carries a ridiculous price tag and it is my understanding that it has a wait list that spans several years. The Cinderella Suite would be no different.
eliza61nyc
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Yep, like it or not there are folks out there that have wealth, big wealth and I'm not talking flashy athletes or reality stars. like I said before I found that out when I was younger and got a job reading bed time stories to a wealthy family's dogs. yep, spent the summer reading "good night" moon to a bunch of charles cavalier spaniels.
If you charge it, they will come.