new Universal resorts named and up dates

starri42

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I guess I'm the only one who likes them.

I mean, the theme-ing is not lavish, but you're not paying lavish prices. I guess the building are utilitarian, but they're spruced up a bit. I like them better than the motel blocks at the All-Stars, and I don't have to look at giant props either.

My only on-property Universal stay was at Cabana Bay, which I adored, so perhaps I'm inclined to be charitable.
 

Tonto

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I guess I'm the only one who likes them.

I mean, the theme-ing is not lavish, but you're not paying lavish prices. I guess the building are utilitarian, but they're spruced up a bit. I like them better than the motel blocks at the All-Stars, and I don't have to look at giant props either.

My only on-property Universal stay was at Cabana Bay, which I adored, so perhaps I'm inclined to be charitable.
Everything and I mean everything Universal has put up in recent memory is comparable to section 8 housing. Just got back from Universal and I’ll say that you can keep this place. They were on to something with Portofino, Hardrock and pacific. All there recent additions are crap. Not to mention Islands of adventures is in absolute **** condition. I have an idea for universal, maybe just maybe they should take some of the money they spend on yearly attractions and maybe focus a little bit on customer service.
 

Edward Jackson

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Everything and I mean everything Universal has put up in recent memory is comparable to section 8 housing. Just got back from Universal and I’ll say that you can keep this place. They were on to something with Portofino, Hardrock and pacific. All there recent additions are crap. Not to mention Islands of adventures is in absolute **** condition. I have an idea for universal, maybe just maybe they should take some of the money they spend on yearly attractions and maybe focus a little bit on customer service.
But they are inexpensive! :joyfull:
 

Jon81uk

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Everything and I mean everything Universal has put up in recent memory is comparable to section 8 housing. Just got back from Universal and I’ll say that you can keep this place. They were on to something with Portofino, Hardrock and pacific. All there recent additions are crap. Not to mention Islands of adventures is in absolute **** condition. I have an idea for universal, maybe just maybe they should take some of the money they spend on yearly attractions and maybe focus a little bit on customer service.
Then stay at Portofino, Hardrock or Pacific. Not everyone can afford that accommodation or want all the services that are offered as part of it. Hence there are cheaper options available. Same as Disney offering Contempory, Polynesian and Grand Floridian, as well as the All Star resorts.
 

Edward Jackson

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All kidding aside. They are a good option for people that want to enjoy a Florida vacation and can't afford a $250+ room.
Air fares are increasing, (a lot), and having this option for accommodations, at these prices, may just be what they need.
 

Tonto

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Then stay at Portofino, Hardrock or Pacific. Not everyone can afford that accommodation or want all the services that are offered as part of it. Hence there are cheaper options available. Same as Disney offering Contempory, Polynesian and Grand Floridian, as well as the All Star resorts.
All joking aside Universal is starting to feel like a Six Flags + and I did stay at Portofino and I’m not impressed at all. The new Hagrids is an a
Then stay at Portofino, Hardrock or Pacific. Not everyone can afford that accommodation or want all the services that are offered as part of it. Hence there are cheaper options available. Same as Disney offering Contempory, Polynesian and Grand Floridian, as well as the All Star resorts.
True but it goes deeper than that. With an over abundance of value hotels come a certain element and that element was in full force at Universal this week. Honestly reminded me of my local six flags. Sorry but I don’t travel across the country for this bull****e. I’d rather spend the extra coin at Disney for a superior overall theme park experience. Maybe I picked the wrong weekend but Universal was a ****e hole.

Portofino and Hardrock have not aged well either. Universal at one point was pushing Disney. I don’t see that right now even with the inclusion of Hagrids. Great coaster with mediocre theming. Fun ride but game changer? Uhhh no.

This trip I stayed at Coronado(Grand Destino- WOWWWWW!), Contemporary( solid) Portofino- Ho Hum...Room was dated and smelled like mold. Water features(waterfalls) were not funtioning and resort was a ghost town. Universal was actually significantly less busy than Disney.
Everyone attacks Disney for the cuts they take. Uni has gone a step further than that IMO. I was really surprised to see the conditions of some of the attractions are in. Some are in terrible shape.
In stead of building a third park; they should improve the overall theme park experience and conditions of their current attractions . It’s 2019 and I’m carrying around park tickets. ***?!?!? Instead of building another coaster; they should poor that money into the maintained of IOA in particular. What a ****e hole. I’m not trying to come off as elitist but Uni is taking a turn for the negative. What happened to this resort???
 

Tom Morrow

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A lot on this subforum will try their best to fight me on this, but, ON AVERAGE, I think Disney guests are classier and better behaved than Universal guests. Yes, Disney has it's fair share of stereotypical obese people in ECV's and entitled brats, but Universal has a significant number of um... "Florida mans" and trash. Also, I don't know what it is, but when I'm at Universal, guests are running into me and pushing around me and shouting constantly whereas Disney usually feels relatively chill regardless of how busy it is (Magic Kingdom excluded). I do think a part of this is Universal's atmosphere in general amps people up too much.

Both UOR parks, outside of Potter, are looking very beat up and run down. I made a thread about this about a year ago and not much has improved. The service has also gone downhill. There was a period from Potter opening in 2010 through about 2014 or 2015 where their guest service was exceeding Disney's and the place looked amazing. Sadly, they did not keep up that momentum and it's back to everything looking beat up and rude or uncaring Team Members being the norm.

Recently I've browsed the Universal resorts. Haven't been to Endless Summer yet. Saphire Falls is very nice and probably my favorite. Aventura and Cabana Bay are decent and these are all better than Disney's Value resorts and are about on the level of their Moderate resorts. The Loews resorts are in no way comparable to Disney's deluxe resorts though and yes they, too, do look a little beat up.
 
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Tonto

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A lot on this subforum will try their best to fight me on this, but, ON AVERAGE, I think Disney guests are classier and better behaved than Universal guests. Yes, Disney has it's fair share of stereotypical obese people in ECV's and entitled brats, but Universal has a significant number of um... "Florida mans" and trash. Also, I don't know what it is, but when I'm at Universal, guests are running into me and pushing around me and shouting constantly whereas Disney usually feels relatively chill regardless of how busy it is (Magic Kingdom excluded). I do think a part of this is Universal's atmosphere in general amps people up too much.

Both UOR parks, outside of Potter, are looking very beat up and run down. I made a thread about this about a year ago and not much has improved. The service has also gone downhill. There was a period from Potter opening in 2010 through about 2014 or 2015 where their guest service was exceeding Disney's and the place looked amazing. Sadly, they did not keep up that momentum and it's back to everything looking beat up and rude or uncaring Team Members being the norm.

Recently I've browsed the Universal resorts. Haven't been to Endless Summer yet. Saphire Falls is very nice and probably my favorite. Aventura and Cabana Bay are decent and these are all better than Disney's Value resorts and are about on the level of their Moderate resorts. The Loews resorts are in no way comparable to Disney's deluxe resorts though and yes they, too, do look a little beat up.
I have to say I agree with a lot of this.

Coronado has stepped it up in a major way with Gran Destino especially for a moderate
hotel. It is awesome. Also, a lot of Disney Luxury resorts have been cleaned up and upgraded in a major way over the past 5 years.

Regarding your Potter point it is spot on. If it, wasn’t for potter, I would’ve of been less inclined to visit.

I also stand by my point that Universals strategy to hyper focus on low and moderate hotel guests is bringing in too much of the wrong crowd.

Universal does Universal very very well, and they continue to invest in areas they don’t need to. Sorry but Islands does not need another coaster. Islands in general needs a lot more love than Universal. Also, IMO Universal was never better than Disney in the Customer Relations front but they did give Disney a good run for their money. Now I feel like the CR side of the bus. is comparable to a six flags. Zero love. Lastly food options on City Walk absolutely suck. What happened to the Chocolate factory? Quality has hit the floor.

My last point is this... The huge investment from Disney on the magic band front was very, very smart. I believe this investment in its IT infrastructure has made visiting its theme parks a lot easier and makes Universal seem outdated in regards to the overall theme park experience. IMO Universal should be upgrading this before expanding their property.
 
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trr1

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Aerial view of Universal's Endless Summer Resort, with Surfside Inn at center of photo, Dockside Inn under construction across Universal Blvd.
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Aerial overview of Universal's Dockside Inn. At center is the lobby building, with adjacent parking garage.
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Aerial view of construction so far at Universal's Dockside Inn. Note the currently open land at left, along International Drive.
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Aerial view of Universal's Surfside Inn.
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Rob562

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Does anyone know how the regular rooms and suites are grouped in the buildings of Surfside Inn?

Over at Cabana Bay each sub-section of the Continental and Americana wings is either all normal rooms or all suites. (You can tell by looking at the windows and see where the colored accent panel is located) I was wondering which parts of Surfside have which type of room.

-Rob
 

Edward Jackson

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Aerial view of Universal's Endless Summer Resort, with Surfside Inn at center of photo, Dockside Inn under construction across Universal Blvd.
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All built with construction quality usually reserved for a parking garage.
 

Corey P

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My question is will Universal actually be able to fill all those rooms?

Not really sure if Universal is filling the rooms they have built in the last few years? Anyone know anything about the occupancy rates?
 

Edward Jackson

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I am curious, (big surprise), but is there a way to obtain an answer to Corey P's question? Is there somewhere that records the
occupancy rates of the hotels in the Orlando area? Not just Universal or Disney, but something to give us an idea of the effect
of the new hotels being added in the area.
 

rdoncsecz

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I am curious, (big surprise), but is there a way to obtain an answer to Corey P's question? Is there somewhere that records the
occupancy rates of the hotels in the Orlando area? Not just Universal or Disney, but something to give us an idea of the effect
of the new hotels being added in the area.
Just a guess though -- they wouldn't keep building space if their current inventory had tons of free rooms. They also need to prepare themselves for what crowds will look like when the new park is open (and Disney with all the new rides being finally added).
 

trr1

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my thought is that Uni is building these two value resorts to try and put out of business the surrounding low priced hotels. Then they can buy the properties and try to get as much connecting land to try and join the sites via a skyway like Disney is using
 

Corey P

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my thought is that Uni is building these two value resorts to try and put out of business the surrounding low priced hotels. Then they can buy the properties and try to get as much connecting land to try and join the sites via a skyway like Disney is using
I think it's for those two reasons. One is why leave money on the table when you you can wipe out the local to Universal hotels? Second would be cheap hotels that could be bought out for the land. Probably various small businesses near these hotels that will see a drop in revenue as well. Win win for Universal but not if you own any of those cheap hotels. I would imagine some are going up for now?
 
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