Matt_Black
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Clearly, you haven't had the cinnamon rolls at Gaston's Tavern. Mm-mm good!
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New theme park competition coming for WDW in Florida!
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Clearly, you haven't had the cinnamon rolls at Gaston's Tavern. Mm-mm good!
lazyboy97o
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How is American Dream Meadowlands coming along?...
It's a mall with some extras on the inside. Not exactly a theme park....
Irrelevant. People aren't going to fly/drive into Orkando then hop on a train to Miami for a glorified mall....
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Nobody plans a "Florida vacation." They plan an ORLANDO vacation or a DISNEY vacation. Exactly zero people will reschedule zero days from Orlando to Miami as a result of this project.
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
I don't know if I'd go that far. That's a pretty broad brush, and ignores the fact that many love Miami's beaches.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Three hours ON the train. Plus 45 minutes to get to the departure train station in the first place, 15 minutes to park, another 30 minutes to get from the arrival train station to your final destination and just like that the idiot train actually takes LONGER than driving.
Americans hate trains, that's just the way it is. Why? Americans hate strangers and love flexibility, especially on vacation.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
People who love Miami's beaches are already going to Miami for the beaches. Not for this mall thing.
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
Really? So if I started playing "Crazy Train", no one would sing along?
ryguy
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All Aboard Florida is a stupid idea and even if it does start up will not make enough money to last. I know most communities along the route are not happy about trains going 100+ mph 30 times a day through their towns. Lawsuits are coming from Martin and Indian river counties and I am sure more counties will join. If they are going to do this it should use tracks west of 95 where its more rural.
CDavid
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All Aboard Florida is far from certain at this point. At the very least, don't hold your breath.
Is that why so many intercity trains run sold-out (or nearly so) day after day, week after week?
Where in the world did you ever get the idea Americans dislike trains, anyway?
Disneyhead'71
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First off, a lot of people plan "Florida Vacations" that include a stop at one of the Orlando Theme Park Resorts and also include cruises, beach stays, even trips to Miami and the Keys.
And I think this WILL affect some of the FL Weekend get-away croud. Especially with how things are turning out for locals and the whole FP+ thing. The reporter I was with this morning was banging his head on his laptop because he was trying to get 3 (for him and 2 friends that are going with him, all AP holders) FP+s for 7DMT for May 18th and they weren't available. So he got 1, and is trying to add his friends as they become available.…...or not.
Not to mention that Miami is, in and of itself, a world class tourist destination.
But mostly, I think this will help WDW more than hurt it. I don't see anyone interested in going to WDW choosing this instead. But I do see some people adding a trip to Miami to their "FL Vacation" with this being included as part of the plan. Particularly the foreign visitors, where it's not uncommon for them to stay for 14 days at a time and shop like crazy.
And I think this WILL affect some of the FL Weekend get-away croud. Especially with how things are turning out for locals and the whole FP+ thing. The reporter I was with this morning was banging his head on his laptop because he was trying to get 3 (for him and 2 friends that are going with him, all AP holders) FP+s for 7DMT for May 18th and they weren't available. So he got 1, and is trying to add his friends as they become available.…...or not.
Not to mention that Miami is, in and of itself, a world class tourist destination.
But mostly, I think this will help WDW more than hurt it. I don't see anyone interested in going to WDW choosing this instead. But I do see some people adding a trip to Miami to their "FL Vacation" with this being included as part of the plan. Particularly the foreign visitors, where it's not uncommon for them to stay for 14 days at a time and shop like crazy.
ToTBellHop
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More like a small novelty for families that go to Miami and realize it's mostly drinking, partying, and drugs. Not very family friendly. So let's go to the mall.
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
This is the first step, they would dearly love to hang a mega casino on this mall but so far the Seminoles and dog tracks have been able to block the gambling part. Oh - yeah TWDC has some pull as well but that is the real goal. 12.9 million for 82 acres of Miami would be enough to do the deal even if nothing gets built.
The title of this thread is very misleading and it really does not belong on a WDW board IMHO
The title of this thread is very misleading and it really does not belong on a WDW board IMHO
GeneralKnowledge
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There's a new TJ Maxx opening in my town in Delaware too...watch out Disney!
ShoalFox
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- In the Parks
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False. We here in Miami take pride in our city.
Jwhee
Well-Known Member
Don't know much about the project, but haven't they already started building?
Cmdr_Crimson
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This mall is being created by the Company that owns Mall of America in Bloomington MN...So there is no Competition to it...
