lazyboy97o
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Geotechnical surveys are going to tell your design team about the existing conditions. They occur before design so they don’t tell you how a design is going to impact the area.
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News New Theater to be built at the Magic Kingdom - now cancelled?
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You know how Indy used to run nine shows a day?
asianway
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any chance of redeveloping the entire Hospitality House complex for the theatre? That always seemed to be the most logical site if you werent going to bring back GPT.
Martin did say, "No hint", in a follow-up post. I think he was as surprised by this as everyone else.
Doc Peters
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Maybe they will throw this money into Epcot
I was surprised when I was told.
Thats assuming you want to put on a show throughout the day.
raven
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The 2000 guests per hour capacity needs to be emphasized that it would have been 2000 guests for about an hour. Swallowing a giant group like that for a long period is exactly what MK needs.
asianway
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Whats Hyperion running nowadays? 2-3? That seems underutilized
Haymarket2008
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Edison Square confirmed.
brb1006
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Now that I think about it, what is the closest attraction at Walt Disney World that can match that.
I thought this was perfect for MK as it seemed to be a new thing that could swallow lots of people for a long time, but, crucially, would not be likely to draw new crowds itself. Tron will swallow a lot of people for an hour or so (with queue), but will bring a lot of new people to the park who will then be there the rest of the day as well, and therefore won't relieve crowds at all. This theater could have swallowed up 2,000 at a time for most of the afternoon, and wouldn't have drawn a ton of extra visitors to the park.
LukeS7
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Highest theoretical capacity at WDW is Haunted Mansion with 3200, closest to 2000 for the Operational Capacity (factoring in potential stops) is Under the Sea with 1980. That's based off of these figures though (no clue how accurate the post is): https://crooksinwdw.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/theoreticaloperational-hourly-ride-capacity-at-wdw/
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I'm slow on the take here...
But unless all the discussion for 10 years has been way off...there have been significant cancellations/alterations/or budget reductions to the following projects over the last decade:
1. New fantasyland
2. Avatar
3. Toy story land
4. Disney springs
...that may not be a "pattern" per se...but it's also not a "series of unfortunate events"
I would expect something similar in the grand scheme at Epcot in the next year as well.
Perhaps the problem is D23...and what it actually is?
But unless all the discussion for 10 years has been way off...there have been significant cancellations/alterations/or budget reductions to the following projects over the last decade:
1. New fantasyland
2. Avatar
3. Toy story land
4. Disney springs
...that may not be a "pattern" per se...but it's also not a "series of unfortunate events"
I would expect something similar in the grand scheme at Epcot in the next year as well.
Perhaps the problem is D23...and what it actually is?
Horizons '83
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I think the shock is that construction was were up, then taken down. Cuts typically happen before ground clearing stages.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That's true on this...an outlier for sure.
The sensible thing is always to take the pill, cut it half, and swallow. Best for expectations.
lazyboy97o
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Changes in scope, many of which occurred before moving into schematic design, are not the same as out right cancellation after approval, announcement and even some permit applications. New Fantasyland is really the only example of major, post-announcement changes. Hyperion Wharf was cancelled but vague and Disney Springs’ big post-approval cut was the Highline access.
The placement for this was really poor. The Magic Kingdom is a tricky park because compared to the other parks, there is very very little room for support areas and parking. That backstage lot is used for so many things, for so many purposes, that losing it would really make a difference in the business operation.
I always thought they should have looked at completely rebuilding the Tony's/Expo Hall building into a much larger theater.
I always thought they should have looked at completely rebuilding the Tony's/Expo Hall building into a much larger theater.
trainplane3
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Please let the replacement be a nice, long dark ride. If there is nothing to replace this project, then at least bump Tron up a year or two. MK needs capacity BAD.