NEW Smoking Settler's Cabin (Formerly Burning) as Seen from Liberty Belle Riverboat

Phil12

Phil12

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I never liked the old flaming settler's cabin. It was such a defeatist example of how early settlers just rolled over and let the native Americans push them around and burn their dwellings down. Most early American settlers were British and they were hard core people. They wouldn't let the native Americans light fire to their cabin without a fight using good defensive tactics!

I think it's obvious that the cabin had been lit on fire and the occupants did their best to extinguish the blaze. The smoke is white and that is a clear indication that water or some other liquid was used to control the fire. Cabins of that era would not have a pump inside the dwelling. It's unlikely they would use stored water to put out the fire because they would need to save that for however long the battle might last. After all, they couldn't go down to the river or to the well to collect water until the native Americans had finished the raid.

I would guess that the cabin occupants used whatever liquid that they and their pets could best provide to put out the conflagration. IMHO the new settler's cabin is more historically accurate.
 
Nemo14

Nemo14

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Phil12 said:
I never liked the old flaming settler's cabin. It was such a defeatist example of how early settlers just rolled over and let the native Americans push them around and burn their dwellings down. Most early American settlers were British and they were hard core people. They wouldn't let the native Americans light fire to their cabin without a fight using good defensive tactics!

I think it's obvious that the cabin had been lit on fire and the occupants did their best to extinguish the blaze. The smoke is white and that is a clear indication that water or some other liquid was used to control the fire. Cabins of that era would not have a pump inside the dwelling. It's unlikely they would use stored water to put out the fire because they would need to save that for however long the battle might last. After all, they couldn't go down to the river or to the well to collect water until the native Americans had finished the raid.

I would guess that the cabin occupants used whatever liquid that they and their pets could best provide to put out the conflagration. IMHO the new settler's cabin is more historically accurate.
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The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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Phil12 said:
I never liked the old flaming settler's cabin. It was such a defeatist example of how early settlers just rolled over and let the native Americans push them around and burn their dwellings down. Most early American settlers were British and they were hard core people. They wouldn't let the native Americans light fire to their cabin without a fight using good defensive tactics!

I think it's obvious that the cabin had been lit on fire and the occupants did their best to extinguish the blaze. The smoke is white and that is a clear indication that water or some other liquid was used to control the fire. Cabins of that era would not have a pump inside the dwelling. It's unlikely they would use stored water to put out the fire because they would need to save that for however long the battle might last. After all, they couldn't go down to the river or to the well to collect water until the native Americans had finished the raid.

I would guess that the cabin occupants used whatever liquid that they and their pets could best provide to put out the conflagration. IMHO the new settler's cabin is more historically accurate.
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You mean they were doing what the British do best, taking the ? :D
 
Mike S

Mike S

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I wanted to stay out of this but after reading more I decided to join in and give my opinion. It does look cheap and I'm actually surprised they even did anything. I don't really remember seeing the actual fire or maybe it just never had an impact on me. I agree with what some people said that if they don't want to fully fix the effect they should probably change it to be like the one in Disneyland that now looks like it's being lived in.
 
DisneyGentleman

DisneyGentleman

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Mike S said:
I wanted to stay out of this but after reading more I decided to join in and give my opinion. It does look cheap and I'm actually surprised they even did anything. I don't really remember seeing the actual fire or maybe it just never had an impact on me. I agree with what some people said that if they don't want to fully fix the effect they should probably change it to be like the one in Disneyland that now looks like it's being lived in.
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Better yet, convert it to a DVC cabin.
 
George Lucas on a Bench

George Lucas on a Bench

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The Empress Lilly said:
To me, the new effect may be inferior to classic MK, but at least it is better than the past decade of nothingness, and than the wussified DL RoA where the west was apparantly won by hippies and Pocahontas.
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The Rivers of America is superior at Disneyland, and its magnificent atmosphere can be experienced from the Mark Twain, a 1790 sailing schooner, canoes, New Orleans Square, Critter Country and even the railroad. The settler's cabin was at least fixed and dressed up as opposed to Magic Kingdom, where everything around the river looks dilapidated and like it's been ignored since 1971.
 
Kman101

Kman101

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I don't see the big deal in this ... the burning settler's cabin, IMO, is far different than a non-working Yeti, IMHO. LOL at people wanting to call customer relations. This is one case I'm just not getting the negativity. To each their own though.
 
Nemo14

Nemo14

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Kman101 said:
I don't see the big deal in this ... the burning settler's cabin, IMO, is far different than a non-working Yeti, IMHO. LOL at people wanting to call customer relations. This is one case I'm just not getting the negativity. To each their own though.
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Yes it's different than the Yeti situation, but just one more blatant example of expecting the customer to settle for "far-less-than-premium" quality from a company who charges "far-more-than-premium" prices.
 
SpaceMountain77

SpaceMountain77

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Perhaps, somewhat like Nero, who fiddled while Rome burned, there is a settler smoking behind the cabin door, surveying his current loss and planning a move to Tumbleweed. He just happens to be smoking heavily and the smoke is billowing over the door.
 
AndyS2992

AndyS2992

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Nemo14 said:
Yes it's different than the Yeti situation, but just one more blatant example of expecting the customer to settle for "far-less-than-premium" quality from a company who charges "far-more-than-premium" prices.
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Yeah. What improvements would you personally make to it to make it a proper premium effect? Without using real fire of course.
 
Nemo14

Nemo14

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Andys2992 said:
Yeah. What improvements would you personally make to it to make it a proper premium effect? Without using real fire of course.
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Why not fix the problems that caused the shutdown originally. If it was leaky pipes, surely Disney can afford to replace them. If it was a matter of "political correctness", then remove it completely and replace it with a Frozen scene. That seems to be the solution of the hour nowadays. :rolleyes:
 

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