News New security measures

[PhotoDave219]

No metal detectors at the cast member entrances...and if I understand correctly, no bag check either.

I thought they were supposed to search bags as people got on or off the bus.

 

[s8film40]

I thought they were supposed to search bags as people got on or off the bus.

I believe they've done this for quite some time if not since the park opened. In fact there was a union dispute over this during initial construction of WDW. It's primarily to stop theft.

 

[Phroobar]

You guys have to remember that those doing security checks are paid minimum wage and mostly given little training. Newer employees will question everything while older ones will let you bring in a bazooka.

 

[GrammieBee]

Perfection in anything is just about impossible to achieve. What you have here is an imperfect system run by imperfect people because we live in an imperfect world. Hopefully, the system will improve, because for now, it is more for show than results.
If you want that practically perfect security system,you will find you will be giving up some of your freedom. You will wait in lines, you and your family and your possessions will be scanned and you might very well be patted down. It is a question of which you would prefer. Tight security or more individual convenience?

 

[PhotoDave219]

Perfection in anything is just about impossible to achieve. What you have here is an imperfect system run by imperfect people because we live in an imperfect world. Hopefully, the system will improve, because for now, it is more for show than results.
If you want that practically perfect security system,you will find you will be giving up some of your freedom. You will wait in lines, you and your family and your possessions will be scanned and you might very well be patted down. It is a question of which you would prefer. Tight security or more individual convenience?

I don't think any of us would have a problem if this was actually tight security. Most of our points are that it's not tight whatsoever and is being done by a contractor with a history of incompetence.

There in lies: what's the point?

 

[draybook]

You guys have to remember that those doing security checks are paid minimum wage and mostly given little training. Newer employees will question everything while older ones will let you bring in a bazooka.

We're talking about the security at Disney, not the TSA.....oh, wait.......

 

[s8film40]

Perfection in anything is just about impossible to achieve. What you have here is an imperfect system run by imperfect people because we live in an imperfect world. Hopefully, the system will improve, because for now, it is more for show than results.
If you want that practically perfect security system,you will find you will be giving up some of your freedom. You will wait in lines, you and your family and your possessions will be scanned and you might very well be patted down. It is a question of which you would prefer. Tight security or more individual convenience?

We are miles away from "perfection", I think what most of us want is something that isn't going to inconvenience us with no benefit. I'm not so much concerned with Disney's amateur attempt at security not keeping us safe but rather having to go through the hassle of security scans and bag checks for nothing.

 

[Phroobar]

We're talking about the security at Disney, not the TSA.....oh, wait.......

The guys running the metal detectors are not Disney employees.

 

[s8film40]

The guys running the metal detectors are not Disney employees.

Not employees but they are contracted by Disney. Disney is responsible for them and they represent Disney.

 

[PhotoDave219]

I believe they've done this for quite some time if not since the park opened. In fact there was a union dispute over this during initial construction of WDW. It's primarily to stop theft.

When I worked there in 2004, yes. Bags were searches you got on the bus at West Clock. Also your bags were supposedly search before you got on the bus to return to your car.

And by "search" I mean "a cursory glance in your bag"… and yes, I would say it's there to determine theft. My question is whether or not that practice still exists 11 years later…

 

[Phroobar]

Not employees but they are contracted by Disney. Disney is responsible for them and they represent Disney.

Disney hired a outside contractor. Those employees are answerable to their employer not the employer's client. They do not represent Disney otherwise they would look like other cast members and wouldn't be wearing jackets with a third party company on it.

 

[s8film40]

Disney hired a outside contractor. Those employees are answerable to their employer not the employer's client. They do not represent Disney otherwise they would look like other cast members and wouldn't be wearing jackets with a third party company on it.

They are being paid by Disney to represent Disney's interests. Disney makes a choice with all of their contractors wether to put them in costumes and name tags and make them look like CM's or not, but that doesn't change anything other than people's perceptions. Not everyone who represents Disney has to look like a CM.

 

[s8film40]

When I worked there in 2004, yes. Bags were searches you got on the bus at West Clock. Also your bags were supposedly search before you got on the bus to return to your car.

And by "search" I mean "a cursory glance in your bag"… and yes, I would say it's there to determine theft. My question is whether or not that practice still exists 11 years later…

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is still the same. I haven't been through one of those in a while but from everything I've heard I have no reason to think it's changed.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Disney hired a outside contractor. Those employees are answerable to their employer not the employer's client. They do not represent Disney otherwise they would look like other cast members and wouldn't be wearing jackets with a third party company on it.

That's absolutely incorrect. The balloon vendors on Main Street aren't Disney employees.

 

[rnese]

....no? I'm not sure how you got that from my post. I was talking about real guns.

But I was complaining about how idiotic it is that my kids can't buy a plastic Pirates of the Caribbean gun in the parks any longer becaus Disney has banned all sales...

 

[PhotoDave219]

That's absolutely incorrect. The balloon vendors on Main Street aren't Disney employees.

Correct, they are a third-party operating participant.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Disney hired a outside contractor. Those employees are answerable to their employer not the employer's client. They do not represent Disney otherwise they would look like other cast members and wouldn't be wearing jackets with a third party company on it.

Yes, but they still have to obey the laws... such as the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Which means you cant ask about why you need medical devices (like the tape & band-aids above) or a service dog.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Yes, but they still have to obey the laws... such as the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Which means you cant ask about why you need medical devices (like the tape & band-aids above) or a service dog.

And that's just the legality of the thing. From a PR perspective, anyone who works on that property works for Disney. If something went wrong, you can be darn sure that the Sentinel's headline would say something like "Disabled veteran harassed by employee at Disney World" without quibbling over the technicality of who signs the offender's paycheck.

 

[PhotoDave219]

And that's just the legality of the thing. From a PR perspective, anyone who works on that property works for Disney. If something went wrong, you can be darn sure that the Sentinel's headline would say something like "Disabled veteran harassed by employee at Disney World" without quibbling over the technicality of who signs the offender's paycheck.

Which is exactly why this will be a nightmare....

 

[Phroobar]

Yes, but they still have to obey the laws... such as the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Which means you cant ask about why you need medical devices (like the tape & band-aids above) or a service dog.

Companies break laws all the time without the regular person knowing it. This could be a training issue or ignorance on the company's side when it comes to these rules.

For example, it is illegal for debit collectors to put their mailing address on the outside of a envelope. This is to keep the debtor from being embarrassed by anyone seeing the letter.