lazyboy97o
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That’s not really something that is just started without a timeline or parts, unless it is a response to the incident in the U.K.
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Rumor New ride coming to Animal Kingdom. D23 announcement expected.
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nickys
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Which is what has been speculated. The shut down happened pretty soon after that incident.
Scrooged24/7
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Loved that show!Uhhh...They tried that well before that...Anyone remember this?
BlakeW39
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I would be inclined to agree with you, but you misinterpret what we (most of us) want from an 'overhaul' of Dinoland, or why we want it.
Indiana Jones is a decades old ride that can be found at the second most popular theme park on the planet. So we can't have it replace the unique ride, Dinosaur, which is already criminally underrated (though still not as good as Indy). I must say though that I am in agreement with Rhode where the ride could be updated so that it is accurate to dinosaurs we know.
Dinoland however is extremely subpar, it isn't an immersive land and the carnival land as a whole is really cheap and wasted. However prehistoric animals must remain in the park because they are critical to the park's theme and storytelling. Dinosaurs must remain the theme of this land, so an overhaul would be a redo, to make it not just a Dinoland but a good one.
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Timothy_Q
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pdude81
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The prescription varies from poster to poster, but my feeling when viewing posts on this topic over the months is that there are more people looking to completely redo this area as something else than people who want to keep Dinosaur and just change Dino-rama. If you, personally, are talking about keeping 2 parts and changing others than I'm not specifically talking about you. However, I think that contributing to the narrative that the land sucks could result in these three rides being replaced with a rethemed Dinosaur to Indy, Triceratops spin relocated entirely, and a third ride that
I'll go on record as saying that I like the concept as it stands and specifically I like that it's so different from the way Disney theming works elsewhere in the parks. If you're not going to try to rip off Jurassic Park in some capacity, that means we live in modern times where Dinosaurs are extinct and immersion is kind of hard to achieve. My not-popular opinion would be that the biggest problem with Dinoland is that it's secondary ride has a 48" height requirement that keeps children off it and spins so much that a number of adults can't do it either without feeling out of sorts for a while afterward.
But spending significant money trying to fix things with the land that can't easily be fixed does not add to capacity in any meaningful way. The addition of the character meets to that area does bring in fresh bodies and take up some capacity, whether everybody likes it or not. I think if they really wanted to make a difference, they could allow for one game ticket per entry per ticket. That would make a big difference in how many people go over there, and not cost a ridiculous sum given that some would buy more tickets when they didn't win on the first game. 1 per day, max of 10 per ticket to align with the longest MYW and keep local AP from potential abuse. But here I am talking about how to help the existing land when I really think that they could make minor tweaks and spend the money elsewhere on something that would really help with the wait times on FoP.
pdude81
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Ok but what do you reasonably replace Dinorama and keep Dinosaur. Or would you rather take this land out to have something else instead of keep it for those who do like it and add elsewhere?
Timothy_Q
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I’d rather replace Dinorama with something that is in the same level as the rest of the park.
A Dinosaur-themed land deserves so much more than 2 carny rides
I haven't picked a camp just yet. But I think I'd rather see Imagineering challenged to create a new land vs "fixing" an old one. I do however want Dinosaur to remain. (albeit improved) Gut Dinorama for something else, something non-Dino or keeping the Dino theme. Doesn't matter to me so long as any new or improved theme, the land's supporting backstory and rides are actually good. There's room for improvement both figuratively and literally. (Looking at you Nemo!) Imagineering can do better.
Side note: Has anyone stopped to ask if this "new ride coming to Animal Kingdom" will be used elsewhere in the park? I know Dinoland USA is the strawman choice but there are other areas in DAK were a ride could be added.
Side note: Has anyone stopped to ask if this "new ride coming to Animal Kingdom" will be used elsewhere in the park? I know Dinoland USA is the strawman choice but there are other areas in DAK were a ride could be added.
doctornick
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I'm quite intrigued by this rumor and feel like the response has been some tacit indication that it is true, so I'm cautiously optimistic about hearing something at D23. The sense I get that it would not be Zootopia, though it will be IP based. This is all just my opinion though based on the hints offered.
Personally, I hope Dinorama stays until the expand elsewhere in the park. I think the park needs more "stuff" before it loses two of its rides, especially one of the few that is all ages/low thrill. I also do not want to lose having a dinosaur area for the park which is apprpriate and a nice compliment to the existing and imaged animals elsewhere.
Personally, I hope Dinorama stays until the expand elsewhere in the park. I think the park needs more "stuff" before it loses two of its rides, especially one of the few that is all ages/low thrill. I also do not want to lose having a dinosaur area for the park which is apprpriate and a nice compliment to the existing and imaged animals elsewhere.
Kman101
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Sadly, I'd welcome it at this point. Kali is not a must do at all. Could have been so much better.
FTFY...
UNCgolf
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It was better when it still had a plot related to deforestation. Always should have been longer, but at least there was a conservation theme. Now it mostly feels like a standard rapids ride -- all the scenes related to deforestation are still there, but they no longer draw any attention to it so it just seems kind of random. Or at least they didn't last time I rode it in 2017.
peter11435
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Other than the fire being deactivated they’ve made no changes to the attraction or queue.
UNCgolf
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Maybe I just have a faulty memory then. Before that last ride I went in specifically remembering it was a ride themed around deforestation, but when I was on it in 2017 I honestly thought I'd made that up until I got to the actual deforestation scene on the ride because I didn't see or hear anything in the queue or anywhere else to draw attention to it.
peter11435
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The theme is still deforestation. The message of the ride still revolves around deforestation. That hasn’t changed.
UNCgolf
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I was never suggesting that they'd actively chosen to remove the deforestation theme. It just seemed like it was far less noticeable than it was when Animal Kingdom first opened -- but as I said, it's entirely possible I just misremembered. I know it's not a Kiliminjaro Safaris situation where they intentionally removed all of the original plot (for understandable reasons, and the safari never needed that plot anyways).
BlakeW39
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It's amazing to me because I feel like its a polarization of the opinions of old, but DAK gets a lot of love these days. Given that, people seem particularly interested in what gives it such a unique quality in story telling, thus people care about the theme a lot. Quite a few people strongly oppose Indy. The rest mostly are normal people that think dinosaurs is a good idea. Those that want to abandon the thematic idea of Dinoland in favor of Indiana Jones or some other IP is NOT most popular here.
As for how we can fix Dinoland; the idea they have of the American southwestern 'Badlands' (the grounds which paved the way for the late 19th to 20th century paleontological revolution) is a unique and good one. Though while I'm at it, Universal does not trademark the age of dinosaurs with Jurassic Park, and making a land of dinosaurs would not rip off Jurassic Park, lol. But we can keep the red rock canyon and paleontological digs. Theme it to the actual southwestern U.S. with paleontological digs and sites. That's immersion. If we can have the area around Dinosaur be less... ugly and instead make it within that same theme, we can tear down the awful Dinorama and place a new E, which would certainly balance FoP wait times. There is no free game that excuses that monstrosity from being in a $100+ WDW park.
Personally I still might rather have 'the age of dinosaurs' but we CAN make it work, and well.