networkpro
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Looking at the current drainage issues they have something needs to be done. The loading dock on the monorail could be renamed a swimming pool by its depth.
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News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024
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UNCgolf
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I know that -- hence why I said it's not well-designed nor does it really fit the Polynesian resort. My point was that it's not remotely brutalist.
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Continuing a dive into the permit...
Starting with something else new we've learned (in addition to extra bathrooms!), the pool will have a splash pad (yellow)! We know it's a splash pad because it's in the plan itself:
I thought it might be a pool bar similar to Oasis but it looks more Riviera-ish with need to exit the pool for a bar. Still, splash pad surprised me because this pool is not very far from the Lava pool and that has arguably the best splash pad on property. But maybe it shouldn't surprise because that splash pad is also often very busy. Difficult to tell exactly but the curvy part gives slide vibes, no?
The red space is a big fun question mark. There's no marked plumbing to indicate a bar space and no immediate kitchen space to indicate a quick service. I don't see retail here either, given the location. A community hall would be great, but this space would be huge for that so I'll say no (but... keep an eye out on the first floor space near the rooms, between the hall and parking lot, there's plenty of room for a community hall over there). While it could be any of these I'd still bet against. My speculative betting favorite here is something Polynesian doesn't have and something it pays out for guests to use: a gym. It seems like a big space for a gym, but it's arguably a "need" and something all Polynesian guests could use.
Moving on, there's nothing we couldn't have already guessed. Pool restrooms (purple) look to have showers, something I personally appreciate often swimming on my departure mornings. But showers next to a potential gym also makes a lot of sense.
Continuing with first floor, the obvious thing from renderings is a restaurant in the blue space with likely kitchen space in red. Quick service or table service? Unsure so I'll argue both sides. There what looks like a busing station behind a wall with with two entrance/exits toward the kitchen. It should be an elegant enough space with great views that some would say might be wasted on quick service. In theory, I'd guess table service can make more money per seat because it's more likely to attract guests just to dine more so than quick service.
And the quick service argument really only if you think Disney likes a hybrid quick service / lounge place. Think like Geyser Point at Wilderness Lodge or Primo Piatto and Bar Riva combo at Riviera. A counter for quick service but a lounge side with table service. The entrance off the lobby (up top) has what reminds me of a cooler + counter space, and that gives me Riviera Primo Piatto-like grab and go vibes. Alternatively, it has quick service pickup counter + soda machine vibes. What I was saying could be a high wall with a bussing station could also be a small wall and counter for coffee and such, think like Riviera's Le Petit Cafe as a hybrid morning coffee bar and afternoon snack bar (sushi?). Then the blue question mark is a bar with lounge space near? Sorta like Primo Piatto and Bar Riva having different roles but sharing the same kitchen. Finally, some sort of quick service near the pool makes sense, unless folks are expected to walk to GCH.
Blue question mark has to be a bar. A bar that's double dury serving a pool and table service makes less sense than serving a lounge + pool (Geysar Point, Bar Riva).
So pros and cons both ways. We'll see. I keep flip flopping but currently leaning quick service + lounge after leaning table service yesterday.
Green is just off lobby right near likely dining. Maybe a waiting area? Maybe small retail for milk, bread, etc needed for folks in villas? Yellow supports bell services and includes the two service elevators. Purple is where we see dining restrooms.
Rest is less fun to speculate. Lobby (orange) here with porte cochere (purple). 4 passenger elevators (blue) and lobby restrooms (yellow). Biggest question here is the orange circled thing. The way it's drawn has look of something taller. At Coronado I'd say like pyramid stairs? At Polynesian, folks do miss the old lobby water features. That's my current hope just from the very little bit we see, but I realize that's thinking with my heart. The outside part, the swirly part, is also hard to decipher. Seems like itd be a water feature but it almost looks like doors drawn in near top?
Not pictured but there's a lot of likely backstage space near the rooms. Some could be used for a community hall. While it'd be great I'm not holding my breathe. But if it's going to exist I'd guess over there.
If you read this far through then bless your nerdy heart.
Starting with something else new we've learned (in addition to extra bathrooms!), the pool will have a splash pad (yellow)! We know it's a splash pad because it's in the plan itself:
I thought it might be a pool bar similar to Oasis but it looks more Riviera-ish with need to exit the pool for a bar. Still, splash pad surprised me because this pool is not very far from the Lava pool and that has arguably the best splash pad on property. But maybe it shouldn't surprise because that splash pad is also often very busy. Difficult to tell exactly but the curvy part gives slide vibes, no?
The red space is a big fun question mark. There's no marked plumbing to indicate a bar space and no immediate kitchen space to indicate a quick service. I don't see retail here either, given the location. A community hall would be great, but this space would be huge for that so I'll say no (but... keep an eye out on the first floor space near the rooms, between the hall and parking lot, there's plenty of room for a community hall over there). While it could be any of these I'd still bet against. My speculative betting favorite here is something Polynesian doesn't have and something it pays out for guests to use: a gym. It seems like a big space for a gym, but it's arguably a "need" and something all Polynesian guests could use.
Moving on, there's nothing we couldn't have already guessed. Pool restrooms (purple) look to have showers, something I personally appreciate often swimming on my departure mornings. But showers next to a potential gym also makes a lot of sense.
Continuing with first floor, the obvious thing from renderings is a restaurant in the blue space with likely kitchen space in red. Quick service or table service? Unsure so I'll argue both sides. There what looks like a busing station behind a wall with with two entrance/exits toward the kitchen. It should be an elegant enough space with great views that some would say might be wasted on quick service. In theory, I'd guess table service can make more money per seat because it's more likely to attract guests just to dine more so than quick service.
And the quick service argument really only if you think Disney likes a hybrid quick service / lounge place. Think like Geyser Point at Wilderness Lodge or Primo Piatto and Bar Riva combo at Riviera. A counter for quick service but a lounge side with table service. The entrance off the lobby (up top) has what reminds me of a cooler + counter space, and that gives me Riviera Primo Piatto-like grab and go vibes. Alternatively, it has quick service pickup counter + soda machine vibes. What I was saying could be a high wall with a bussing station could also be a small wall and counter for coffee and such, think like Riviera's Le Petit Cafe as a hybrid morning coffee bar and afternoon snack bar (sushi?). Then the blue question mark is a bar with lounge space near? Sorta like Primo Piatto and Bar Riva having different roles but sharing the same kitchen. Finally, some sort of quick service near the pool makes sense, unless folks are expected to walk to GCH.
Blue question mark has to be a bar. A bar that's double dury serving a pool and table service makes less sense than serving a lounge + pool (Geysar Point, Bar Riva).
So pros and cons both ways. We'll see. I keep flip flopping but currently leaning quick service + lounge after leaning table service yesterday.
Green is just off lobby right near likely dining. Maybe a waiting area? Maybe small retail for milk, bread, etc needed for folks in villas? Yellow supports bell services and includes the two service elevators. Purple is where we see dining restrooms.
Rest is less fun to speculate. Lobby (orange) here with porte cochere (purple). 4 passenger elevators (blue) and lobby restrooms (yellow). Biggest question here is the orange circled thing. The way it's drawn has look of something taller. At Coronado I'd say like pyramid stairs? At Polynesian, folks do miss the old lobby water features. That's my current hope just from the very little bit we see, but I realize that's thinking with my heart. The outside part, the swirly part, is also hard to decipher. Seems like itd be a water feature but it almost looks like doors drawn in near top?
Not pictured but there's a lot of likely backstage space near the rooms. Some could be used for a community hall. While it'd be great I'm not holding my breathe. But if it's going to exist I'd guess over there.
If you read this far through then bless your nerdy heart.
Batman'sParents
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Has a lot of the construction been pre-fabricated?
JoeCamel
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The walls
EngineerMom
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I am looking forward to seeing how the rooms themselves look.
If anyone's on the monorail can we get some updated photos from that side? I'm seeing what looks like dedicated one bedroom "value" sized rooms. Near the passenger elevator shaft (tall bank of single windows to the left of lobby).
photo credit: WDWMagic July 13, 2023
The rooms are shallow like the duo studio *but* there is no balcony divider between the two window sets. While some single DVC villas have dividers for visual cohesiveness there are not separate units sharing balconies. Also, until we saw the recent first floor plan showing the hall location we couldn't deduce that this part of the building didn't have staggered hallways leaving similar depth rooms, like we think we are seeing on the lagoon side, but I believe we can rule that out now for these six floors 2-7.
Over the last week I've hesitated on this because it doesnt make sense, imo, to have *dedicated* one bedroom value villas when It seems like they would either be paired with a duo to have lock off two bedroom units or just be split into two duos. I suppose it could be a marketing plan, as it's on standard view aide they can say something like: "one bedroom villas from 25 points per night."
So until we see evidence to the contrary, namely balcony dividers (which could happen), I think it's safe to speculate that these could become the first MK resort value one bedroom villas. I don't see Disney naming anything on the monorail line "value," so they would need a new name. Would likely sleep only 4 so I'll call them Quads to be similar to Duos.
photo credit: WDWMagic July 13, 2023
The rooms are shallow like the duo studio *but* there is no balcony divider between the two window sets. While some single DVC villas have dividers for visual cohesiveness there are not separate units sharing balconies. Also, until we saw the recent first floor plan showing the hall location we couldn't deduce that this part of the building didn't have staggered hallways leaving similar depth rooms, like we think we are seeing on the lagoon side, but I believe we can rule that out now for these six floors 2-7.
Over the last week I've hesitated on this because it doesnt make sense, imo, to have *dedicated* one bedroom value villas when It seems like they would either be paired with a duo to have lock off two bedroom units or just be split into two duos. I suppose it could be a marketing plan, as it's on standard view aide they can say something like: "one bedroom villas from 25 points per night."
So until we see evidence to the contrary, namely balcony dividers (which could happen), I think it's safe to speculate that these could become the first MK resort value one bedroom villas. I don't see Disney naming anything on the monorail line "value," so they would need a new name. Would likely sleep only 4 so I'll call them Quads to be similar to Duos.
Epcot82Guy
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The no divider is intentional. This is DVC's new expansion into matchmaking services.
John park hopper
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Disney can put all the lip stick on this and it will still look like a Hampton Inn
Disstevefan1
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nickys
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Could these not just be an alternative layout, like they have at CCV for some studios.
I’m also not clear why you’ve ruled out the staggered hallways option for these rooms.
CaptainAmerica
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Thanks!
While the red *could* be used to later separate the balcony, it also appears that such is on every pair of windows, easier to see here in blue. We'll see!
While they could be an alternative layout studio, each room is the same width as the other rooms on the floor so it's make more sense for Disney to make two duos than one alternative layout.
And staggered hallway thing I think I can explain here.
So the relevant space is in red. On the first floor there aren't any rooms here, but there are windows on floors above in the same area, implying guests rooms. On the first floor, I'd even argue the lower room looks like the laundry room.
So we have to assume the hallway (blue) is the same on upper floors as the first floor here. If the hallway is anywhere different, pushed more to the right, it impedes with the rooms on the right, so assumption is that the hallway remains in the same spot and the rooms *cant* be staggered to be the same length as others on the floor.
nickys
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Looking at that drawing, which I assume is the first floor with the washing machines, the actual space of the two adjacent rooms in red looks to be roughly the same size as the rooms further along the hall, turned 90 degrees. Not as long but slightly wider. Certainly in the zone at least.
So if there is the same space above, could it not be a sideways on studio. With one balcony and two windows because of the configuration of the room. But internally it could be one room, not the two of the first floor. Hence an alternative layout.
ToTBellHop
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So swingers are welcome here?
Smart way to expand the clientele and an effective foil for the uppity childless millennials.
Smart way to expand the clientele and an effective foil for the uppity childless millennials.
The two adjacent rooms in red are together the same width as any two other rooms, and the length is the same as the presumed duo down and across the hall. On the first floor it might look off because the wall is not in the middle of the two rooms and leaves one bigger than the other. Presumably it's centered on the floors 2-7 to leave equally sized rooms that are each the same dimensions as a duo.
And speaking of dimensions, we may be able to estimate room room dimensions. This is one I hope someone beats me to because I'm interested to know but don't know if interested enough to do it.
Chip Chipperson
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Upside-down pineapples are on theme.