Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

ABQ

Well-Known Member
i'm pretty sure they are Fiberglass not carbon fiber, CF is SUPER SUPER SUPER expensive to use as body/structural support. hence most buckets built with CF for cars being retardedly expensive. I could be wrong tho.
Sort of what I thought. The monorails feel more 1970's Corvette than 2016 Pagani. But that's just a feeling, no real knowledge.
 

Disone

Well-Known Member
Except that the TDS Electric Railway does not...
I’ve wondered about that one for awhile and have never come across a good answer.
Omg that is a good point. I have not wondered about that but now I sure do.

Perhaps the electric Railway meets all standards except for a published schedule? Perhaps published schedule isn't a required to standard? Perhaps the whole thing is mythology? And the only reason why the Tokyo Disneyland railroad only goes around to lands as because that's what the Oriental Land Company wanted it to do? And I'm not stating any of this as fact I am genuinely just wondering out loud.
 

Jonathan Wang

Disney/Monorail Nut
Okay. Lets forget the steam engines for a moment. The monorails are electric AND have plenty of mechanical parts. The Vancouver SkyTrain system I mentioned earlier is also Electric. It has 30 plus year old trains running very efficiently. And reliably. And not just a token one or two, they are a significant part of the fleet.

Of all the issues with the monorail the fiberglass bodies are not high on my list of issue. They need to be cleaned and or repainted, but they are doing that now. Well repainting at least.

I am still of the opinion they could have lasted much longer had they had a more robust maintenance schedule. Of course I'm also of the opinion that it's too late now to save these trains. And even if it wasn't, at this point I'm let's just get a new Fleet please.
i have a feeling originally they had every intention to get these monorails out by 20 years so when it was near that time they stopped caring as much (regarding maintenance) , but with how traffic (foot traffic) patterns change and other things needing money allocated they kept delaying the idea of replacing them and riding it out more and more till well you already see whats happening now...
 

Lensman

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Omg that is a good point. I have not wondered about that but now I sure do.

Perhaps the electric Railway meets all standards except for a published schedule? Perhaps published schedule isn't a required to standard? Perhaps the whole thing is mythology? And the only reason why the Tokyo Disneyland railroad only goes around to lands as because that's what the Oriental Land Company wanted it to do? And I'm not stating any of this as fact I am genuinely just wondering out loud.
Well, according to the Wikipedia article on the DisneySea Electric Railway:
Wikipedia said:
When Tokyo Disneyland was constructed, local railway laws were applicable to any railway that connected two points and can be used as a means of transportation, even if the railway was entirely on private land. As a result, the Western River Railroad, the other railroad at the park, was designed as a loop with no intermediate stops to avoid this regulation.[3] The law was abolished on April 1, 1987, and as a result, Tokyo DisneySea could add railways useful as transportation within the park without falling under the local railway laws.
I still can't find a great citation for all the older Japanese railway laws applicable before 1987, but the abolishment referenced above was apparently the Japanese Railway Restructuring Law of 1987 that, among other things, privatized the Japanese National Railway. I see that it abolished both the Japan National Railways Law (Law No. 256 of 1948) and the Enforcement Law for the Japanese National Railways Law (Law No. 105 of 1949).
 
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wishiwere@wdw

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I know I know... beating dead horse but I do like to help folks be aware when their trip to the magic Kingdom takes over an hour due to the monorail being completely down. Hopefully it’s back up later when the firework crowds leave!

I presume this is related to the earlier storms but still interesting to see them parked side by side

Edit: just saw EPCOT line is open at 6:20. That’s a good sign!
 

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EricsBiscuit

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I know I know... beating dead horse but I do like to help folks be aware when their trip to the magic Kingdom takes over an hour due to the monorail being completely down. Hopefully it’s back up later when the firework crowds leave!

I presume this is related to the earlier storms but still interesting to see them parked side by side
A guest opened a window and the monorail stopped, potentially causing damage to the track. AT least that's what I was told.
 

EricsBiscuit

Well-Known Member
I don't know for sure but I did see reports of power loss being the issue.

Let's hope the new trains are still coming...
To corroborate that my SO said on the way in that she saw them welding on the track. The only thing I can imagine them welding would be to do with power.

Edit: right by security check from Contemprary walkway
 
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Disone

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I know I know... beating dead horse but I do like to help folks be aware when their trip to the magic Kingdom takes over an hour due to the monorail being completely down. Hopefully it’s back up later when the firework crowds leave!

I presume this is related to the earlier storms but still interesting to see them parked side by side

Edit: just saw EPCOT line is open at 6:20. That’s a good sign!
Resort line reopened at 820pm.
 

Robbiem

Well-Known Member
We're also still not comparing accurately even if you ignore that. The steam locomotives are mechanical. The monorail is electronic, and electronic components don't last a fraction of the time.

I work in rail transportation in the UK. One of the biggest issues with modern and relatively modern trains is it becomes harder to maintain electronic based systems over mechanical ones. On the London tube it is easier to maintain trains from the 1970s which are primarily mechanical compared to the electronics based systems on 1980s or 90s trains as it is a lot harder to get electronic components from this era whereas you can fabricate mechanical parts relatively easily. The same also applies to signaling systems
 

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