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[Captain Chaos]

Universal is doing a film based on the musical, but if I recall ABC is/was working on a television mini series based more on the book(s).

Universal Studios Japan also had an Oz land that featured a short version of the musical. How the global theme park rights works could be interesting. Was that deal only good for Japan and now completely done? Is it possible for the theme park rights to the musical and its derivative film to be sold to Universal while Disney could still acquire the theme park rights to the books?

Since the original books are not in the public domain, it is very much possible for Disney and Universal to both do Oz, even in Florida. Universal's based not only on the books, but also Wicked. Disney's on Oz: The Great and Powerful, maybe even with a sprinkling of Return to Oz and even elements from the Wicked books (and mini series) if that is possible.

Well the OZ land in Japan is gone now along with the Wicked show... So I guess one can assume that the theme park rights in Japan are done..

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Universal is doing a film based on the musical, but if I recall ABC is/was working on a television mini series based more on the book(s).

Universal Studios Japan also had an Oz land that featured a short version of the musical. How the global theme park rights works could be interesting. Was that deal only good for Japan and now completely done? Is it possible for the theme park rights to the musical and its derivative film to be sold to Universal while Disney could still acquire the theme park rights to the books?

Since the original books are not in the public domain, it is very much possible for Disney and Universal to both do Oz, even in Florida. Universal's based not only on the books, but also Wicked. Disney's on Oz: The Great and Powerful, maybe even with a sprinkling of Return to Oz and even elements from the Wicked books (and mini series) if that is possible.

The book is HORRIBLE compared to the show. I can't even imagine being interested in something based on the book, personally.

And last I heard, the movie was on hold because the musical was still making TONS of jack touring... They decided they would wait until it's POPULARity (ha) wore off some before boosting it again with the movie.

I'd bet we're years away from a movie.

Not that that necessarily effects the rights and what Disney may or may not want. But I'd be shocked to see Uni give up rights to the movie and keep rights to the musical, as a movie would directly cannibalize their stage show profitability.

IF Uni owns the stage show. Which I don't know, but someone else here stated.

 

[StageFrenzy]

The book is HORRIBLE compared to the show. I can't even imagine being interested in something based on the book, personally.

I love reading, but i could only make it about a quarter of the way through the book before I went meh and put the sucker down.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

I love reading, but i could only make it about a quarter of the way through the book before I went meh and put the sucker down.

FYI, Son of a Witch (the second book) is much better. That first one though. Ugh.

I often think how crazy good the writers of the musical did to pull it out of that book.

 

[JT3000]

IF Uni owns the stage show. Which I don't know, but someone else here stated.

Wicked (the musical) is produced by Universal. They presumably have all rights to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_%28musical%29 (second paragraph)

Produced by Universal Pictures in coalition with Marc Platt and David Stone, the Joe Mantello-directed and Wayne Cilento-choreographed original production of Wicked premiered on Broadway at the Gershwin Theatre in October 2003.

In fact, they apparently have the rights to the entire kit & kaboodle.

Composer and lyricist Stephen Schwartz discovered writer Gregory Maguire's 1995 novel Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West while on vacation and saw its potential for a dramatic adaptation.[6] Maguire, however, had released the rights to Universal, who had planned to develop a live-action feature film.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Wicked (the musical) is produced by Universal. They presumably have all rights to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_%28musical%29 (second paragraph)


In fact, they apparently have the rights to the entire kit & kaboodle.

It's no wonder, honestly... The rights were probably extremely cheap. I'm sure no one envisioned what they were able to do to make the musical.

Genius, really.

They deserve every penny. Amazing show. Simply amazing.

 

[fosse76]

It does actually sound like the negotiations have been one of trading one property for another as opposed to buying them out. Another one that Jim Hill mentioned a while ago was the Broadway show Wicked as being a property that Universal has expressed interest in.

What? As someone else mentioned, Universal can't have expressed an interest in Wicked since it already owns it. It's one of the producers of the stage show. Marc Platt, who actually owns the film and stage rights, works within Universal Pictures, therefore giving them a partial ownership in the material. The musical was such a massive hit, they gave up all other rights to the source material, retaining only the stage rights and the film rights to the musical. The television rights to the book had been sold separately, so any television movie/series can only be based on the book. Since the musical is massively popular, I doubt any exploitation of the story outside of the musical will be popular, as most will be expecting the musical version.

**EDIT
What I find most amusing about Jimmy Thick and others who support the view that Disney's lawyers can just wake up all of sudden and get the rights for WDW if they wanted do, is that they act like Universal/Comcast is some mom and pop operation without their own high-powered attorneys. Universal is every bit as powerful as Disney (probably moreso) and wouldn't be scared off by any of Disney's lawyers.

 

[RSoxNo1]

What? As someone else mentioned, Universal can't have expressed an interest in Wicked since it already owns it. It's one of the producers of the stage show. Marc Platt, who actually owns the film and stage rights, works within Universal Pictures, therefore giving them a partial ownership in the material. The musical was such a massive hit, they gave up all other rights to the source material, retaining only the stage rights and the film rights to the musical. The television rights to the book had been sold separately, so any television movie/series can only be based on the book. Since the musical is massively popular, I doubt any exploitation of the story outside of the musical will be popular, as most will be expecting the musical version.

**EDIT
What I find most amusing about Jimmy Thick and others who support the view that Disney's lawyers can just wake up all of sudden and get the rights for WDW if they wanted do, is that they act like Universal/Comcast is some mom and pop operation without their own high-powered attorneys. Universal is every bit as powerful as Disney (probably moreso) and wouldn't be scared off by any of Disney's lawyers.

I may have the story incorrect, but I thought it was the Theme Park rights to Wicked that were at one point being considered. I believe there was something else regarding stopping production on a movie that was similar to a Universal property. Not sure if anyone else knows what I'm talking about.

 

[ChrisFL]

**EDIT
What I find most amusing about Jimmy Thick and others who support the view that Disney's lawyers can just wake up all of sudden and get the rights for WDW if they wanted do, is that they act like Universal/Comcast is some mom and pop operation without their own high-powered attorneys. Universal is every bit as powerful as Disney (probably moreso) and wouldn't be scared off by any of Disney's lawyers.

Especially since Comcast who owns Universal came quite close to entirely buying out Disney a few years ago

 

[Jimmy Thick]

Now if anyone knows anything about the Marvel comics knows the super-villan they show after the initial credits after the Avengers is one bad dude.


Wouldn't it be something if the X-Men show up to help The Avengers?



Jimmy Thick-Is it possible?

 

[Hakunamatata]

Now if anyone knows anything about the Marvel comics knows the super-villan they show after the initial credits after the Avengers is one bad dude.


Wouldn't it be something if the X-Men show up to help The Avengers?



Jimmy Thick-Is it possible?

I like how you think.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

Now if anyone knows anything about the Marvel comics knows the super-villan they show after the initial credits after the Avengers is one bad dude.


Wouldn't it be something if the X-Men show up to help The Avengers?



Jimmy Thick-Is it possible?

The thing that worried everyone about the Avengers movie before it came out was how to do justice to so many different characters in one film. With the X-Men, you'd have a minimum of maybe 3-4 extra characters to juggle. Plus Fox and Disney don't get along. Plus Fox is doing the retro thing with the X-Men for now. Sony and Disney can play nicely; look at their deal for the Spidey movie/merch rights. I think it's a much better shot to see Spider-Man as a cameo in the next Avengers. It all depends on how The Amazing Spider-Man and Iron Man 3 do, I suspect.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

The thing that worried everyone about the Avengers movie before it came out was how to do justice to so many different characters in one film. With the X-Men, you'd have a minimum of maybe 3-4 extra characters to juggle. Plus Fox and Disney don't get along. Plus Fox is doing the retro thing with the X-Men for now. Sony and Disney can play nicely; look at their deal for the Spidey movie/merch rights. I think it's a much better shot to see Spider-Man as a cameo in the next Avengers. It all depends on how The Amazing Spider-Man and Iron Man 3 do, I suspect.

Well, the bad guy at the end of The Avengers, I don't want to spoil it, is a seriously bad, bad guy capable of doing bad bad things.

Lets put it this way, you could have The Avengers, X-Men and Spidey and there could still be enough screen time for everyone.

Seeing Downey as Iron Man and Jackman as Wolvie together would be total Marvel fangasim.


Jimmy Thick-Plus it would have to be Toby Maguire as Spider-Man.