New Main Street U.S.A bypass to be built to address entry and exit congestion at the Magic Kingdom

[note2001]

We used the bypass twice last week at approximately 9:00 each time. MSEP was just starting so trying to get down MSUSA with two kids would have been just about impossible. It was a nice peaceful walk, and we were in Town Square before we knew it. This allowed us to even watch the parade without having to sit for hours with the many tour groups who had camped out.

If you don't like it, simply choose not to use it. It is certainly necessary with today's crowds and I think it was done about as well as I could expect. If I was more concerned about the theming than convenience or safety, I would simply go down MSUSA.

I saw those tour groups camped out blocking most of the end of main street, as they have been doing for the past few years. It seems to be their modus operandi, but I wonder how long before they realize there are better areas available now and start to disperse a bit.

 

[mergatroid]

Good photo update on the bypass at DaMouse...

http://damouse.com/2015/07/06/latest-look-at-the-main-street-usa-bypass/

Looks much better than when we exited that way 2 years ago. They do a similar thing when Fantasmic ends at the Studios where you pass the back of BATB.

 

[Cesar R M]

looks more like a new ad location.

Agree.
I also hope they add more lamps.
In february I used it and it was pretty dark.
There were a lot of CMS with the classic lamp batons and flashlights.

 

[Biff215]

I saw those tour groups camped out blocking most of the end of main street, as they have been doing for the past few years. It seems to be their modus operandi, but I wonder how long before they realize there are better areas available now and start to disperse a bit.

The hub was a sea of the same color shirts, but they also extended down the sides of Main Street. We were walking in at 6:00 for dinner and some were already camping out. I can't complain though, they could be clogging the queues of attractions instead. I don't get waiting that early for a parade that is fairly visible, but to each his own I guess.

Speaking of the tour groups, they were everywhere but well behaved. One tried to start a chant at the load of Mine Train, but a CM quickly shut it down. The worst we saw was walking out of HS at close and a group of girls and a separate group of boys were chanting back and forth as the boys took their shirts off. Aside from slightly tramatizing our young kids, it was actually pretty funny!

 

[Sage of Time]

A billboard would be nice too.

 

[jensenrick]

Saw these on twitter from bioreconstruct

Framing installed on exposed back of plaza restaurant. I imagine for installation of some type of themeing.

Theming, or . . . possibly a billboard? Hey I wouldn't like it either, but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[dstrawn9889]

most likely a pair of nostalgia billboards, like the bicycle one at the entrance

 

[Bairstow]

I saw those tour groups camped out blocking most of the end of main street, as they have been doing for the past few years. It seems to be their modus operandi, but I wonder how long before they realize there are better areas available now and start to disperse a bit.

Same here.
The bypass was a Godsend last Thursday night.

 

[JediMasterMatt]

Putting a billboard up on an un-themed wall is a great way to draw more attention to an eyesore.

Which is probably why TDO will do exactly that.

 

[ABQ]

I know everyone wants to throw WDW under the bus for this currently blank wall, however, aside from it the rest of this bypass is themed pretty well. I wonder if this wall has something on the other side, that prevents it from getting a full blown covering. Those odd fabric covered areas are hide something. Something that may not be able to receive a solid, more permanent covering.

 

[DVCOwner]

Putting a billboard up on an un-themed wall is a great way to draw more attention to an eyesore.

Which is probably why TDO will do exactly that.

You sure kind find a way to make everything negative. If nothing was being done you would complain about that to.

 

[JediMasterMatt]

You sure kind find a way to make everything negative. If nothing was being done you would complain about that to.

Finding negative things to say about the way Disney runs it's parks in Orlando is like shooting fish in a barrel. This entire Hub refurb projct has been an epitome of the way the entire resort has fallen into malaise.

When you love something, you can't just pile praise upon it. Real love is seeing the good and the bad in what you care about. WDW is an "A" student that has been coasting for far too long and is now getting failing grades. As guests, we should expect more out of the world's best amusement resort and stop settling for less and less. Disneyland Resort struggled for years and if it wasn't for the strong advocates for change, it would likely be in the same state. WDW needs people to call them out when they falter instead of just praising them when they succeed. I've been visiting the place often enough for long enough to know what they can do when they try. Disney in Anaheim found a way to make the ingress/egress for their bypass to look appropriate to the land, why should we except anything different in Florida?

As a DVC owner (your name) I would hope you would be an advocate for change as well since you are invested in the place.

They could put the prettiest billboard in the world up there on that wall; but, unless they alter the sightlines looking South - it won't solve the problem. Either block the view or theme out the back side of those buildings. If they start to work on that now... they may just have it finished by the 50th anniversary using the progress rate they've demonstrated in their efforts made at the Hub.

 

[DVCOwner]

I had to get out of the Magic Kingdom one night and back to the hotel, I was have used this bypass no matter what.

 

[DVCOwner]

Finding negative things to say about the way Disney runs it's parks in Orlando is like shooting fish in a barrel. This entire Hub refurb projct has been an epitome of the way the entire resort has fallen into malaise.

When you love something, you can't just pile praise upon it. Real love is seeing the good and the bad in what you care about. WDW is an "A" student that has been coasting for far too long and is now getting failing grades. As guests, we should expect more out of the world's best amusement resort and stop settling for less and less. Disneyland Resort struggled for years and if it wasn't for the strong advocates for change, it would likely be in the same state. WDW needs people to call them out when they falter instead of just praising them when they succeed. I've been visiting the place often enough for long enough to know what they can do when they try. Disney in Anaheim found a way to make the ingress/egress for their bypass to look appropriate to the land, why should we except anything different in Florida?

As a DVC owner (your name) I would hope you would be an advocate for change as well since you are invested in the place.

They could put the prettiest billboard in the world up there on that wall; but, unless they alter the sightlines looking South - it won't solve the problem. Either block the view or theme out the back side of those buildings. If they start to work on that now... they may just have it finished by the 50th anniversary using the progress rate they've demonstrated in their efforts made at the Hub.

The billboard is not the problem, the problem was crowd control and something had to be done and done quickly. Disney did that and now little by little is improving the area. I agree with you that Walt Disney World has not gotten its fair share of love in the last few years, but projects such as the rebuilding the HUB, work to build Disney Springs, increasing the capacity at two major attractions is positive. Still work needs to be done and let's hope more is on the way with the rebuilding of Disney's Hollywood Studios and adding so much to Animal Kingdom. I still find things I am not happy with, but it looks to me that Disney is starting to make progress after years not doing anything.

 

[JediMasterMatt]

The billboard is not the problem, the problem was crowd control and something had to be done and done quickly. Disney did that and now little by little is improving the area. I agree with you that Walt Disney World has not gotten its fair share of love in the last few years, but projects such as the rebuilding the HUB, work to build Disney Springs, increasing the capacity at two major attractions is positive. Still work needs to be done and let's hope more is on the way with the rebuilding of Disney's Hollywood Studios and adding so much to Animal Kingdom. I still find things I am not happy with, but it looks to me that Disney is starting to make progress after years not doing anything.

It's good to see that you can see some of the forest for the trees as well. Just to play the game out a bit further... I want to add a comment or two about some of what you mentioned.

The billboard is not the problem, the problem was crowd control and something had to be done and done quickly.

"Quickly" certainly isn't the word that jumps to my mind with anything related to the Main Street/Hub project. It's going on a year and a half and is still not finished. Leaving the topic of whether or not this project was a necessary evil off the table, let's make it simple and discuss the end result. In less time, Disneyland accomplished it's Main Street bypass and the end result doesn't have the issues that Florida is facing. The questions that a Disney Park fan should be asking is why that is continues to be acceptable? All the money that may be coming to Orlando to fix some of the woes of the resort won't mean anything if they are poorly implemented or maintained. The same attention to detail that goes into fixing DHS should be the same on replacing a water fountain or bypassing Main Street USA. The first and most important change that has to happen at WDW is a change of heart. The bottom line is that one US Disney Park is consistently hitting the mark and one is not. The One Disney initiative should mean the same practices and procedures; but, they fail at this even internally.

I agree with you that Walt Disney World has not gotten its fair share of love in the last few years, but projects such as the rebuilding the HUB, work to build Disney Springs, increasing the capacity at two major attractions is positive.

Adding capacity to Soarin' and DHS in many ways will compound the issues they are trying to solve - especially at DHS. Getting 1/3 more people through two headlining attractions faster means that those people are now in the pool of people in search of the next thing to do... and having more (meaning new/different) things to do is the real problems both parks are facing. Still, the extra throughput is a plus; but, will only payoff if/when additional attractions come online. TDO's heart is in the right place with this project... they've just got the timing all wrong.

I won't recap the Hub 2.0's "need" again; but, I will agree that the bypass part of it was needed. It's just the execution that is lacking.

 

[Cesar R M]

It's good to see that you can see some of the forest for the trees as well. Just to play the game out a bit further... I want to add a comment or two about some of what you mentioned.



"Quickly" certainly isn't the word that jumps to my mind with anything related to the Main Street/Hub project. It's going on a year and a half and is still not finished. Leaving the topic of whether or not this project was a necessary evil off the table, let's make it simple and discuss the end result. In less time, Disneyland accomplished it's Main Street bypass and the end result doesn't have the issues that Florida is facing. The questions that a Disney Park fan should be asking is why that is continues to be acceptable? All the money that may be coming to Orlando to fix some of the woes of the resort won't mean anything if they are poorly implemented or maintained. The same attention to detail that goes into fixing DHS should be the same on replacing a water fountain or bypassing Main Street USA. The first and most important change that has to happen at WDW is a change of heart. The bottom line is that one US Disney Park is consistently hitting the mark and one is not. The One Disney initiative should mean the same practices and procedures; but, they fail at this even internally.



Adding capacity to Soarin' and DHS in many ways will compound the issues they are trying to solve - especially at DHS. Getting 1/3 more people through two headlining attractions faster means that those people are now in the pool of people in search of the next thing to do... and having more (meaning new/different) things to do is the real problems both parks are facing. Still, the extra throughput is a plus; but, will only payoff if/when additional attractions come online. TDO's heart is in the right place with this project... they've just got the timing all wrong.

I won't recap the Hub 2.0's "need" again; but, I will agree that the bypass part of it was needed. It's just the execution that is lacking.

didnt they have to redo a few things in the hub as well? (due to shoddy work)

 

[jt04]

I know everyone wants to throw WDW under the bus for this currently blank wall, however, aside from it the rest of this bypass is themed pretty well. I wonder if this wall has something on the other side, that prevents it from getting a full blown covering. Those odd fabric covered areas are hide something. Something that may not be able to receive a solid, more permanent covering.

My thinking has been for awhile that they have a longer term plan that is not funded yet and this is simply being done with other funds as they become available. Perhaps as an expansion of T-Land someday in the future is the long term goal.

 

[ford91exploder]

My thinking has been for awhile that they have a longer term plan that is not funded yet and this is simply being done with other funds as they become available. Perhaps as an expansion of T-Land someday in the future is the long term goal.

Disney does indeed have the funds, What TWDC spends each year in buying back stock (ie 6-8 Billion) would build a NEW gate, They simply choose not to spend it on the parks which is the second largest revenue generator after ESPN.

 

[jt04]

Disney does indeed have the funds, What TWDC spends each year in buying back stock (ie 6-8 Billion) would build a NEW gate, They simply choose not to spend it on the parks which is the second largest revenue generator after ESPN.

Obviously they have the money but even the mouse has a structure for allocating funds depending on the project, department etc.

 

[flyerjab]

I used this last night to bypass the MSEP. To me it felt like walking through a park. There are large trees throughout now, and the wall is just about finished. The lamps, iron fencing, bill boards, etc. all looks great. And man, was this ever a necessity last night.