ParksAndPixels
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New Main Street U.S.A bypass to be built to address entry and exit congestion at the Magic Kingdom
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note2001
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The new age marketing for Disney is all about mind manipulation. Force the junk down our throats until we believe it's amazing and are just thankful it came from Disney. After all, they are the best, Right? Right? <<crickets>>
That said (and not in response to you danlb_2000), this is just a bypass. There are too many people who make it sound as though Disney should be making this into a whole new land. That's not the idea. I'm quite accustomed to walking through their parking area. It'll be nice to have anything better than lined pavement and fake shrubs on wheels.
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ford91exploder
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Remember they sent Colglazier from TDO out to DL so he could start doing to DL what TDO has been doing for years in Orlando.
Just sell the parks to OLC and count the revenue bucks
ford91exploder
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ABQ
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It's funny, some are upset that the show is bad on the east side (tomorrowland) bypass, I was sent out the west side, near the rest rooms and first aid area, now that is truly another world. Cast members lounging on benches (at least they still have benches back there for cast) smoking cigarettes, dumpsters with that sour milk smell. Yuck. All that and a big digital clock on the wall that was off by an hour, how dare they!
ford91exploder
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Cmdr_Crimson
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flynnibus
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Goofyernmost
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Beat your head against the wall all you want, I do not buy that. It's, in all likelihood only exist because of evacuation needs promoted by Homeland Security. It connects with the show, but, I don't believe they have ever thought of it as anything other then a utility project. It's everyone else that is making it a topic. It is of so little importance to the overall entertainment factor of WDW that no reasonable person would ever feel that theming is necessary. It is mostly going to be used by people leaving the park. For them the show is over and regardless of what everyone thinks Disney should do, it doesn't really fall into that category. If I don't want to see it, I really don't have to use it do I? I would use it when I am focused on leaving and couldn't care less about anything else.The project is to make it no longer just be backstage
But enough of this topic... you can keep arguing it if you like, but, I have already devoted much more time to this then it warrants.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's been ingrained because that's what the company was built upon as it's vision and mantra from it's founders and champions. This isn't simply "when I saw disney, it was good, so I expect more of that" - it was the very principles the founder of the company DRILLED into people and was the philosophy behind their actions. It was one of the pillars that established the company as different and distanced itself from its competition. It became to be pointed out as 'the Disney difference'
It's as much of the DNA of Disney as Mickey Mouse or Animation is.
Disney was synonymous with QUALITY and going the extra distance. An association created by 50+ years of interviews, statements, training, and output.
Kman101
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Communicore
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I was a CM and I was trained to clean, clean, clean. The fixins bar at Cosmic's? The closing manager runs his/her hand through the bottom each night to ensure it was cleaned, and they expect it to be eco-shined too. No excuses.
flynnibus
Premium Member
OMG. Because of DHS they need to formalize the overflow output THEY'VE ALREADY HAD AND USED FOR DECADES?
The park already has emergency evacuation plans and how to quickly move people out of the park.. including through backstage areas. The Main Street project isn't adding any new paths the site hasn't had at it's disposal for ages. It's to pretty it up so that they can start using it more frequently and with less stigma.
This line of thinking is so 'justify my choices' line of thinking it makes me sick just to read. You have zero comprehension of managing customer experiences.
But let's burn down your train of thought with even the most simple stupid example. You say people leaving the park, and the show is already over for them. Then why on earth does Disney pay employees to stand around the Main Street station to wave and say goodbye to guests leaving the park? I don't care if you like those people and what they do or not... but its just a simple example to show that even Disney doesn't agree with your postulation that 'the show is already over for them'.
danlb_2000
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Beat your head against the wall all you want, I do not buy that. It's, in all likelihood only exist because of evacuation needs promoted by Homeland Security. It connects with the show, but, I don't believe they have ever thought of it as anything other then a utility project. It's everyone else that is making it a topic. It is of so little importance to the overall entertainment factor of WDW that no reasonable person would ever feel that theming is necessary. It is mostly going to be used by people leaving the park. For them the show is over and regardless of what everyone thinks Disney should do, it doesn't really fall into that category. If I don't want to see it, I really don't have to use it do I? I would use it when I am focused on leaving and couldn't care less about anything else.
But enough of this topic... you can keep arguing it if you like, but, I have already devoted much more time to this then it warrants.
If plans were to use it only for emergencies, then I would be ok with that, but it's not going to be reserved for emergencies. The parks were always intended to keep you immersed in the theming from the moment you enter to the moment you leave. If they are going to skimp in one area, who's to say they won't start skimping in others? I reminds me of the old printed napkins, or burned out light bulb discussion. Some people didn't understand why these things were a big deal. In and of themselves they are not, but's a symptom of a large cheapening of the experience.
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Kman101
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If the alley was intended to be open at all times, I agree it should be on par with Main Street theming and immerse you, and even have access to stores. Them not doing the arcades or really plussing it doesn't bother me personally because it's going to be used for quick guest flow. I'm really not sure why this continues to be such an issue? It's intended to be a bypass, not a new street that's just being hastily thrown together and sparsely themed. THEN I can understand the outrage. JMO. I'm not sure why this is truly a big deal?
Cmdr_Crimson
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It's quite possible it will be revealed around Christmas & also New Years as it goes to Nightmare-ish crowds on those holidays..
Cesar R M
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Dont give them ideas.
But then, I bet some of the famous lifestylers will sell "tours" to visit the new bypass.
ToTBellHop
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The walkway to and from Fantasmic is also only open a fraction of the time, yet it is themed. This new bypass is intended to be open regularly, and not necessarily just at night.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Not discounting your point, but just note...the overflow exit of Fantasmic (Perimeter Road) at HS is not themed. In fact you can see storage units and cast parking from it quite easily. I've been down it several times over the years.