New Imagination Park Disney Stores to use tech from the parks!

Figment632

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I am not buying into it. If it were so hard to stop employees from stealing expensive items, then no store would exist. It is just a terrible job by management if this was an ongoing problem.

Exactly, and then there is the not making money unless its 75% off. Trust me I am with you I am just telling you why the ARt of DIsney was closed. It is a sin to only have t-shirts for adults.
 

Slowjack

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Slowjack, I do believe I worked with you at The Disney Store at The Riverchase Galleria in 1992 (you may not remember me--I was a high school kid and did not last long). I emailed you, but I'm not sure if it went through.
Dan, I remember you quite well, actually. You and I even interviewed together, if you remember (this is Anton, in case you weren't 100% sure). Your avatar would have reminded me anyway, although you didn't have a monkey and parrot on your shoulders back then.

No, I didn't get the e-mail -- turns out I hadn't updated the address in my profile in some time. Just fixed that.

Hope you're doing well. BTW, I've heard there may be a reunion of sorts before our store closes. I can pass along the details when I get them if you're interested.
 

WDWGoof07

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I'm in agreement with most people here. Disney can make the stores as fancy as they want, but, if they don't return to selling collectibles and things adults would actually buy, I won't be spending any money there. It's kind of disappointing because they used to have some interesting stuff for animation fans like myself.

To be fair, I'm much more condescending in person ... you should ask my friends and family ...or, better yet, some select Disney execs!

Now, I could be nasty and tell you to go choke on your pixie dust, but I am in waaay too good a mood tonight!

:rolleyes: You're just continuing to prove my point.
 

Figment632

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I'm in agreement with most people here. Disney can make the stores as fancy as they want, but, if they don't return to selling collectibles and things adults would actually buy, I won't be spending any money there. It's kind of disappointing because they used to have some interesting stuff for animation fans like myself.



:rolleyes: You're just continuing to prove my point.

Why should they if they don't sell :brick:
 

xdan0920

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Why should they if they don't sell :brick:

Disney Collectables do sell. A lot. Go to collectables today, or bradford, or any Hallmark store. Or check out the in park options. Disney collectables sell big time. The problem was how the Disney Store priced, displayed and marketed these items. They just need to get it right, and the collectables will sell.
 

Figment632

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Disney Collectables do sell. A lot. Go to collectables today, or bradford, or any Hallmark store. Or check out the in park options. Disney collectables sell big time. The problem was how the Disney Store priced, displayed and marketed these items. They just need to get it right, and the collectables will sell.

Well then we are talking about lesser product right?
 

xdan0920

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I get your point and agree with you but The Art of DIsney closing was like a shock wave imo and management seems like they are afraid to go in that direction again.

I don't doubt that you are well informed and almost certainly right. I just think it is a big waste of money if all they are going to do is make a fancy high tech looking toy store.

If Disney is not going to try and attract young and old, then I have zero interest in the disney store.
 

Figment632

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I don't doubt that you are well informed and almost certainly right. I just think it is a big waste of money if all they are going to do is make a fancy high tech looking toy store.

If Disney is not going to try and attract young and old, then I have zero interest in the disney store.

I am with you it just isn't going to happen anytime soon!
 

Kamikaze

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So you're saying Disney is going to develop an iPad app that they then distribute using Ad-Hoc distribution? Obviously the app wouldn't go on the iTunes Store, because it has no purpose there. But with iPhone OS being a notoriously locked system, sorry, I don't buy it. Devs can't add their own function calls, they have to stay within Apple guidelines. Which means that the calls they have to use could be used by anyone, and therefore anyone can walk in and play with the effects.

Now, some of this doesn't matter because of the Ad-Hoc distribution, but it wouldn't take very long with a wireless packet sniffer to figure out what does what, and then post the info to the net, and you'd have people at every Disney store playing with the effects.

It just doesn't make sense. A much easier and secure solution would be to use a system such as X10, because what you described is exactly what it is meant to do. Automation.
 

Figment632

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So you're saying Disney is going to develop an iPad app that they then distribute using Ad-Hoc distribution? Obviously the app wouldn't go on the iTunes Store, because it has no purpose there. But with iPhone OS being a notoriously locked system, sorry, I don't buy it. Devs can't add their own function calls, they have to stay within Apple guidelines. Which means that the calls they have to use could be used by anyone, and therefore anyone can walk in and play with the effects.

Now, some of this doesn't matter because of the Ad-Hoc distribution, but it wouldn't take very long with a wireless packet sniffer to figure out what does what, and then post the info to the net, and you'd have people at every Disney store playing with the effects.

It just doesn't make sense. A much easier and secure solution would be to use a system such as X10, because what you described is exactly what it is meant to do. Automation.

It wil be a special I-pad for TDS and yes it is true.
 

yoyoflamingo

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At which store did you get those? I know someone who would love Clarabelle ...

But yeah, that's kind of what I expected. These are pieces that Disney kept in glass display cabinets in its own stores and parks/resorts. And now you have a retailer like Maxx that probably bought them for like $5 a piece, if that.

So, I am sure there will be rampant destruction.

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After looking at a few Marshalls and TJ Maxxs myself, it is indeed so sad to see the disregard for these. We saw many that had no boxes or COAs, and even a store I went back to later had removed all the pieces out of the boxes, which we nowhere in sight.

Only one store had them behind the register, but it's still so sad to see them in these stores in the first place.
 

Kamikaze

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It wil be a special I-pad for TDS and yes it is true.

There is no such thing as a 'special' iPad. You're saying Apple is going to compile a seperate OS version just for the Disney Stores? Not happening.

And you could still sniff the packets and have your way with the effects.

Like I said, they could have a special APP distributed Ad-Hoc, but I'll give that two weeks once these stores open before the App is available in Cydia (applications for jailbroken iPhones/iPod Touches/iPads) and once that happens, you can forget the effects, because they will need to be turned off since anyone with a device can come in and play with them.
 

Figment632

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There is no such thing as a 'special' iPad. You're saying Apple is going to compile a seperate OS version just for the Disney Stores? Not happening.

And you could still sniff the packets and have your way with the effects.

Like I said, they could have a special APP distributed Ad-Hoc, but I'll give that two weeks once these stores open before the App is available in Cydia (applications for jailbroken iPhones/iPod Touches/iPads) and once that happens, you can forget the effects, because they will need to be turned off since anyone with a device can come in and play with them.


All I can tell you is you are wrong I have seen I the Ipad you are wrong. With that said things can change and they could decide to change what runs the store. Also why does the APP have to be made available to the public.
 

WDWGoof07

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Why should they if they don't sell :brick:
I agree with that, but, like xdan has been saying, I think it comes back to the issue of balance from high end to low end. Sales of collectibles would be better if the focus wasn't exclusively on high-end, niche-market items, like what the Art of Disney section was selling. These items need to be part of a more varied, balanced collectibles section for it to work. Also, the price needs to match the quality.

Disney Collectables do sell. A lot. Go to collectables today, or bradford, or any Hallmark store. Or check out the in park options. Disney collectables sell big time. The problem was how the Disney Store priced, displayed and marketed these items. They just need to get it right, and the collectables will sell.

No, we are talking about a balance of high end to lower end.

I can't speak for the theft issue, in the area of the store I was referring to theft is hardly a problem.

Now about things being marked down 75% being the only way to move items off the shelves. What that says to me is that the original price point was unrealistic. The disney store in New Jersey can not be charging the same price as the emporium in the MK. I understand some items demand a very high price point, but this comes back to variety. You need to have a wide range of items. More items at a lower price, and fewer as you approach a very high price. Disney collectables are obviously a very profitable venture, otherwise there wouldn't be so many different items available. They just need to find a way to get these items in store at realistic prices. Look at Hallmark for example, they sell a line of precious moments Disney figurines. These things sell like crazy, why then are they not available in the Disney Store? Things like that would definitely sell, and boost store profits.
 

Figment632

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I agree with that, but, like xdan has been saying, I think it comes back to the issue of balance from high end to low end. Sales of collectibles would be better if the focus wasn't exclusively on high-end, niche-market items, like what the Art of Disney section was selling. These items need to be part of a more varied, balanced collectibles section for it to work. Also, the price needs to match the quality.

I agree woith you but it isn't going to happen which is a shame :brick:
 

Figment632

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I agree with that, but, like xdan has been saying, I think it comes back to the issue of balance from high end to low end. Sales of collectibles would be better if the focus wasn't exclusively on high-end, niche-market items, like what the Art of Disney section was selling. These items need to be part of a more varied, balanced collectibles section for it to work. Also, the price needs to match the quality.

There is no such thing as a 'special' iPad. You're saying Apple is going to compile a seperate OS version just for the Disney Stores? Not happening.

And you could still sniff the packets and have your way with the effects.

Like I said, they could have a special APP distributed Ad-Hoc, but I'll give that two weeks once these stores open before the App is available in Cydia (applications for jailbroken iPhones/iPod Touches/iPads) and once that happens, you can forget the effects, because they will need to be turned off since anyone with a device can come in and play with them.

Listen I don't speak computer language and id DIsney asks Apple to desgin them their own version why would apple not? Also you can control the effects manually, you don't think that there woulld be some built in precaution to stop anyone from controlling the effects??? That is just stupid.
 


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