Would a third building for Tishman/Marriott necessarily be another "Disney Resort as operated by Marriott" in the same vein as the Swolphin?
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New Hotel to Join Swan & Dolphin
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Would a third building for Tishman/Marriott necessarily be another "Disney Resort as operated by Marriott" in the same vein as the Swolphin?
Creathir
Premium Member
Interesting.
So I guess we need to start guessing which animal they use to theme it.
Panda maybe? Pretty sure they are not going to use an alligator...
I always associated the Dolphin and Swan with Fantasia for some reason, so maybe they go with a centaur or a bear...
Part of our party will be staying at that resort at the end of September. Would love to see some pictures of the lobby and other construction.
Thank you
WDWFANSINCE81
Active Member
Considering Swan is a Westin and Dolphin is a Sheraton, I can only hope the new one would be a W. I'll put money on The Pelican as the name...a boutique Miami Beach style resort...would fit in with The Swan and Dolphin quite well.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
manatee?
articos
Well-Known Member
Same vein, yes. Not necessarily Marriott, unless you are referring to the corporate brand as opposed to the hotel brand.
articos
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Not necessarily about the date as much as it is about the economics and Disney/RCID being in the midst of a major infrastructure upgrade, plus the 50th coming up.
Yeah, I was referring to Marriott the corporate overlord and not Marriott the hotel brand.
The Westin and Sheraton branding of the Swolphin has become vanishing small online over the past few years. Do you know if the two resorts are really being operated by two different subsidiaries, or, is the brand distinction only one in name?
BrianLo
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Westin and Sheraton as part of SPG really are the same thing these days. They frequently create complexes with a few of their different brands occupying the same space. It's simply to offer perceived options and each have brand standards to maintain to be flagged under each (bed lines and linens, shampoo products, Sheraton's always offer a club lounge, etc.). The lines are increasingly blurred these days as each brand have adapted things from the other (Westin bed standards have impacted over to Sheraton sweet sleeper beds). They both fall into the same price range and categorization as well, so I can see how it's not easy to really separate out the two.*
That said I think the Disney contract would be the loosest of them all in terms of requirements to be flagged as each brand thus it is probably not all that apparent.
The Dolphin redesign to me looks very in line with the Westin branding however.
If I had to guess though I would actually expect the third hotel to fall under the SPG flagship. If it is boutique I might even say a Luxury Collection property. If they are really going all in a St. Regis.
*In the US it's a bit easier to tell the difference, Westin runs higher end. Internationally, including Canada, Sheratons are consistently higher quality and equivalent to Westin.
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Really ? Bus driver talk?...... gee thanks!
themonkeyisthesultan
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They should name the new hotel the Porpoise.
the.dreamfinder
Well-Known Member
Probably. My real concern is who will be designing this hotel and will it complement the Swolphin. The Swan and Dolphin were designed by postmodernist architect Michael Graves who sadly passed away a couple of years ago. When the first rumblings about a third hotel came up last January, I asked @marni1971 if his firm, still based in Princeton NJ, was involved with this project, he said no.
disneylandcm
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The Albatross.
Gatorboy
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Hippo
matt9112
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pelican is slick....nice.