News New Haunted Mansion Grounds Expansion, Retail Shop Coming to Disneyland Resort in 2024

chadwpalm

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In the Parks
No
You mean it’s… GASP… not done yet!?
No 💩 Sherlock.

What are you going on about? I haven't been keeping up on pics due to travelling and sincerely wanted to know if what I saw was recently added or not. I made no implication that it was done. In fact, I posted that I heard people inside working.

If you have beef with me man up and spit it out. Otherwise keep to yourself.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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No 💩 Sherlock.

What are you going on about? I haven't been keeping up on pics due to travelling and sincerely wanted to know if what I saw was recently added or not. I made no implication that it was done. In fact, I posted that I heard people inside working.

If you have beef with me man up and spit it out. Otherwise keep to yourself.
Pretty sure that comment was directed at the people constantly complaining about how it looks, not at you for asking if something was new.
 

mickEblu

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Lipstick on a pig. Will any of these decorations bring down the peak of that roof and make the building at least 1/3 smaller? They might help it look less like a suburban Desperate Housewives house. That’s about it.
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

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Then why quote reply me and not make a general comment? It felt personal.
Not sure, that’s just how I interpreted it. I think you pointing out they were still improving it was just used as a jumping board to make a point to the naysayers that they’re still improving it. That’s just my interpretation though, I can’t speak for Britain, just trying to convey to you I don’t think it was meant to be personal, text is hard to decipher though.
 

TP2000

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Geez, leaning on stage and with their hands in their pockets. When I worked attractions, I'd of gotten a verbal/written warning from the NOCC team or possibly been fired for using that kind of body language too often "on stage". Hard to believe that was just over a decade ago.
Yeah, I was amazed by some of the scruffy-faced CM's with shirts untucked looking like they just rolled out of bed in their uniform. Standards have fallen. Too bad prices haven't.

It's just a tacky and sloppy way to run a business. What is he even doing there? Why? And no supervisor thinks to question that use of labor and staffing in California's very expensive business environment? Not to mention how on earth he is furthering the "story" of that attraction.

I got home last night from another Viking cruise and a post-cruise Immersion Trip (thanks WDI for that hilarious term!). It involved not just Viking, but several other "World Class" (using TDA's own words to describe themselves) hospitality companies and airlines.

I can confidently say that in 2024 it is still entirely possible for well run companies to uphold very high standards for their front line operational employees for attire, grooming, comportment, polish, and professionalism. While they work in a very well organized and expertly managed operation. Disney's theme parks have simply chosen on purpose to no longer strive for those heights, in an industry Disney invented and created for themselves and with standards they once set their own bar at.

That's what makes it all so sad at Disneyland nowadays; they purposely chose to do this to themselves. :( :banghead: :(
 

SuddenStorm

Well-Known Member
It's just a tacky and sloppy way to run a business. What is he even doing there? Why? And no supervisor thinks to question that use of labor and staffing in California's very expensive business environment? Not to mention how on earth he is furthering the "story" of that attraction.

I got home last night from another Viking cruise and a post-cruise Immersion Trip (thanks WDI for that hilarious term!). It involved not just Viking, but several other "World Class" (using TDA's own words to describe themselves) hospitality companies and airlines.

I can confidently say that in 2024 it is still entirely possible for well run companies to uphold very high standards for their front line operational employees for attire, grooming, comportment, polish, and professionalism. While they work in a very well organized and expertly managed operation. Disney's theme parks have simply chosen on purpose to no longer strive for those heights, in an industry Disney invented and created for themselves and with standards they once set their own bar at.

That's what makes it all so sad at Disneyland nowadays; they purposely chose to do this to themselves. :( :banghead: :(

I'm convinced that in 2020 TDA forgot what makes Disneyland great, and how to run the place.

It often feels like the park is being run by a different company or something.
 

Tysus

New Member
I'm convinced that in 2020 TDA forgot what makes Disneyland great, and how to run the place.

It often feels like the park is being run by a different company or something.
I've heard this applied to many industries other than Disney as well and I believe they said that many of the people that had been in the workforce and knew everything and could teach the newer generations didn't come back to due retirement among other things. Combine that with possible people in the company being furloughed and not coming back could be a partial reason.

I also think there's just a general feeling of apathy that most people have about things in general that no one really cares about all these minor details and just wants to have any escape they can from their everyday life and Disney still scratches that itch for the moment.

It could also just be they couldn't make money for a year and half and decided to speed run the nickle and dime they had been doing, that they just keep coming and everything gets worse.
 

wityblack

Well-Known Member
It's also important to note that when it comes to benefits and wages, things are not keeping pace with cost of living. It's tough to smile and stand up straight all day when you're working a second job and getting little sleep, or failing to make ends meet. Plus there's a whole practice of cutting hours so that people don't get full time benefits. It's a very harsh work environment. And when you pay people the same wage operating something in Fantasyland as in Galaxy's Edge, but require someone in one of those roles to improv in character with the land, you lead to people feeling apathy. Add on top of that the way companies view their employees as replaceable, and the lack of upward mobility, it can foster ennui.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
it can foster ennui.
Good word....

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Phroobar

Well-Known Member
It's just a tacky and sloppy way to run a business. What is he even doing there? Why? And no supervisor thinks to question that use of labor and staffing in California's very expensive business environment? Not to mention how on earth he is furthering the "story" of that attraction.

I got home last night from another Viking cruise and a post-cruise Immersion Trip (thanks WDI for that hilarious term!). It involved not just Viking, but several other "World Class" (using TDA's own words to describe themselves) hospitality companies and airlines.

I can confidently say that in 2024 it is still entirely possible for well run companies to uphold very high standards for their front line operational employees for attire, grooming, comportment, polish, and professionalism. While they work in a very well organized and expertly managed operation. Disney's theme parks have simply chosen on purpose to no longer strive for those heights, in an industry Disney invented and created for themselves and with standards they once set their own bar at.

That's what makes it all so sad at Disneyland nowadays; they purposely chose to do this to themselves. :( :banghead: :(
Yet everyone jumps at the chance to give Disney thousands of dollars for World Walmart Class Service. On top of that, people here defend it! If it is from Disney it must be superior to all other forms of entertainment.
 

Phroobar

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Funny how anyone can walk into an In n’ Out or a Chick-Fil-A and encounter—consistently—some of the friendliest, most professional, most enthusiastic employees in the country. No excuses, no B.S., just a lot of good people with self respect getting paid a decent wage for the hard work they do.
In n' Out's prices are still fairly cheap compared to the chains like McDonalds, Carl's Jr and Booger King.

Chick-Fil-A is like crack. They start out with free coupons and people get addicted to it. It's expensive but the employees are great.
 

Professortango1

Well-Known Member
Yet everyone jumps at the chance to give Disney thousands of dollars for World Walmart Class Service. On top of that, people here defend it! If it is from Disney it must be superior to all other forms of entertainment.
That's due to the monthly AP program. The park is no longer attempting to reach a value of $200 a day; instead they aim to be good enough for folks paying $20-$80 a visit or $50-$130 a month. They devalued the parks and as long as the majority of guests are getting the devalued price, they don't care about the poor suckers paying $200 per visit.
 

mickEblu

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That's fine to the monthly AP program. The park is no longer attempting to reach a value of $200 a day; instead they aim to be good enough for folks paying $20-$80 a visit or $50-$130 a month. They devalued the parks and as long as the majority of guests are getting the devalued price, they don't care about the poor suckers paying $200 per visit.

But if you want that $200 value Disney has a new $400 “skip the line” option for you. Where you can feel like a VIP and still wait 20-25 minutes for Indiana Jones and Soarin. Haha
 

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