mickEblu
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I still can’t remember if I’ve actually been in Dead Man’s Grotto. It’s always closed.
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I still can’t remember if I’ve actually been in Dead Man’s Grotto. It’s always closed.
britain
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mickEblu
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lol. At the end of the day some half @$$ theming with fiberglass statutes and a couple features in the cave is never going to move the needle. Just let the island be.
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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Is there a source for this "Pooh getting replaced by Star Wars" rumor? This is the earliest post I can find talking about it
britain
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Phroobar
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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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Interesting. IIRC Disney hasn't touched the Ewoks at all, so it'd be weird for them to build an Ewok area. And Pooh is a money maker, although it no longer fits in its land (it never really did, British stuffed animals didn't fit super well in a land themed to country critters). I'd personally love for Pooh to be replaced with the CBMJ.This person - new member, so no track record of correct or incorrect.
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Phroobar
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As long as KK is involved Galaxy's Edge is never expanding.
mickEblu
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Then they’d be making the same mistake again by not going with the classic stuff.
britain
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What would they do? Put in a Grogu tea cup ride?
My wish - probably won't be fulfilled - is for the Pooh vehicle entrance and exits to be walled off, keep it more or less looking like the same hillside. Then put some Ray spinner attraction there where the Pooh queue is (where's the old Francis the Ladybug vehicles from Bugs Land?). Then gut the Pooh building and make it accessible from the SWGE side to hold an Endor Speederbike attraction. High-speed suspended indoor rollercoaster with a launch through a dark tunnel that actually goes over Disneyland Drive into the parking lot space marked for Disneyland Forward expansion. Unlike Space Mountain and other indoor coasters, this one wouldn't give you glimpses of how high you are from the bottom of the show building. It would be multi layered (think like a 5 story, high-speed ET Adventure) so that you'd be accelerated by gravity, and the occasional launch section, but always feel like you're 4 feet off the woodsy ground. And having it be indoors would enable good laser attacks from scout walkers, stormtroopers, etc.
Man, if only they'd break the land free from that single time period and single location!
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DavidDL
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Full disclosure: I love Winnie the Pooh and the Pirate's Lair elements of Tom Sawyer's Island (both are in my Top 10 things to do when I am in the park). However, if Winnie the Pooh had to close forever to bring some thematic cohesion back to the newly named Bayou Country, I would fully accept that. My vote would be for the updated Country Bear show to make it's way West but I'm not sure what the odds of that happening are.
-and as much as I love the Pirate stuff on TSI and would prefer to see it returned to it's former working glory, if those elements have to go in order to bring the island back up to a presentable level, I will accept that trade off. TSI is still one of my favorite places to visit when I am in the park because it's one of the few escapes from the hustle and bustle of the "mainland" but on my most recent trip, everything there was either closed, didn't work, or was in rough shape. It was really sad to see and I hope they fix up the island soon.
-and as much as I love the Pirate stuff on TSI and would prefer to see it returned to it's former working glory, if those elements have to go in order to bring the island back up to a presentable level, I will accept that trade off. TSI is still one of my favorite places to visit when I am in the park because it's one of the few escapes from the hustle and bustle of the "mainland" but on my most recent trip, everything there was either closed, didn't work, or was in rough shape. It was really sad to see and I hope they fix up the island soon.
Professortango1
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I just want Pooh replaced with an Ichabod dark ride. The area back there has always reminded me of Sleepy Hollow. Less with the Bayou aspect thrown in, but that hasn't affected that portion of the land as its primarily just the facade of Splash and the gift shops which were bayou-fied.
Phroobar
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That would be great and it would be great to replace Kylo Ren with Darth Vader in ROTR. However Disney is only doing their own Star Wars characters. So we are stuck with Mando and Grogu until they get lucky on a decent story after firing KK. If they did do a speeder bike coaster, they would probably use these guys.
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost
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This is right on the money lmaoThat would be great and it would be great to replace Kylo Ren with Darth Vader in ROTR. However Disney is only doing their own Star Wars characters. So we are stuck with Mando and Grogu until they get lucky on a decent story after firing KK. If they did do a speeder bike coaster, they would probably use these guys.
Disney Analyst
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Did you see the updated “a ghost will follow you home” scene from Magic Kingdom today? I assume possibly a hint of what’s to come.
SuddenStorm
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I forgot about the hideaway. I was okay with that also.
Pelicans landing doesn't bug me either, even if it cost the old keel boat dock.
Professortango1
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Visiting the parks yesterday, what I think is the issue is not the era of the characters, but the approach of the theme park land. There's zero excitement in the Rise queue until you get to the Rey transmission. Other than that, it feels very bland. Not only is the cave design really bad, feeling like box rooms with faux rock as opposed to other natural queues that Disney has created. The closed off passages don't feel like real passages, the rooms are lifeless and have nothing but the occasional radio heard. This is the same pretty much for Smuggler's Run.
Disney was so focused on creating grounded and "realistic" adventures for the land that they forgot the storytelling. They forgot these stories are made for 12 year olds and should entertain them. Once we are on the ship for Rise, its fantastic, but getting there I am so bored. It should feel like the Resistance is scurrying and trying to move out, about to make a big play. There should be energy in the land using the stages throughout that cause effects to happen. Its like they learned every wrong lesson from WWoHP and missed all the clear examples.
If they swapped out Luke for Rey, Solo for Finn, and Vader for Kylo; it wouldn't affect the ride for me at all. The ride is fine, its the queue and land which are boring as sin and that's because Disney forgot that we are kids in an adventure serial. Lifeless map rooms and dust covered flight suits in cages doesn't get me pumped, regardless of what era they are part of.
mickEblu
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Forgot about Pelicans Landing. Yeah I’m fine with that as well.