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chadwpalm

chadwpalm

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No
Ghost Host:

"....I know you’re curious to see what’s inside.
It’s what happens when two holidays collide!"

Can't we all agree it is both a Halloween and Christmas attraction?

Anyhoo.....I don't mind it being open for Halloween, but August is too early. Oct., Nov., and Dec. would be good enough. That's 1/4 of the year instead of a little over 1/3.
 
Consumer

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chadwpalm said:
Ghost Host:

"....I know you’re curious to see what’s inside.
It’s what happens when two holidays collide!"

Can't we all agree it is both a Halloween and Christmas attraction?

Anyhoo.....I don't mind it being open for Halloween, but August is too early. Oct., Nov., and Dec. would be good enough. That's 1/4 of the year instead of a little over 1/3.
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No, because it's not. They're celebrating Christmas, therefore it's a Christmas attraction. I don't even understand how this is an argument.
 
zipadee999

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Consumer said:
No, because it's not. They're celebrating Christmas, therefore it's a Christmas attraction. I don't even understand how this is an argument.
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Agreed. HMH is more about celebrating Christmas than it even is about Nightmare Before Christmas. It’s almost like “A Very Haunted Mansion Christmas featuring Jack Skellington and Friends.”

I thinks it’s a shame that the most famous haunted house in the world isn’t able to be experienced on the one day where the entire world tries to capture a little bit of the magic that it essentially invented. Basically every piece of Halloween decor I see on anybody’s porch I can find a way to liken back to the Haunted Mansion in some way. That’s the cultural impact it has. One could make the argument that the cultural impact of the Haunted Mansion is so great, that it’s shaped our celebration of Halloween as we know it.

Of all days during the year, Halloween is the one where you should be able to hear Grim Grinning Ghosts and have the ghosts follow you home. Instead, you have to smell gingerbread and hear Leota’s Twelve Days of Christmas.
 
mickEblu

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NBC the movie is much more about Christmas than it is about Halloween. There is no trick or treating, kids dressing up, Halloween parties or anything of the sort. But you do have snow, Santa, gifts, elves, Christmas trees, sleighs, "Santa" going down the chimney etc. Halloweentown is the setting but there is nothing about it that is reminiscent of the actual holiday.

As for Haunted Mansion, the thing has snow on it. The first thing you see is Jack Skellington in a Santa hat by the marquee. The attraction has almost nothing to do with the actual holiday of Halloween other than maybe some of the jackolanterns in outdoor queue. The holidays aren't colliding any more than if Freddy Kruger, Jason or the Creature from the Black Lagoon showed up. Monsters etc aren't inherently "Halloween" other than the fact that its usually the season when those types of movies are released in theaters or viewed at home.
 
Professortango1

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zipadee999 said:
Agreed. HMH is more about celebrating Christmas than it even is about Nightmare Before Christmas. It’s almost like “A Very Haunted Mansion Christmas featuring Jack Skellington and Friends.”

I thinks it’s a shame that the most famous haunted house in the world isn’t able to be experienced on the one day where the entire world tries to capture a little bit of the magic that it essentially invented. Basically every piece of Halloween decor I see on anybody’s porch I can find a way to liken back to the Haunted Mansion in some way. That’s the cultural impact it has. One could make the argument that the cultural impact of the Haunted Mansion is so great, that it’s shaped our celebration of Halloween as we know it.

Of all days during the year, Halloween is the one where you should be able to hear Grim Grinning Ghosts and have the ghosts follow you home. Instead, you have to smell gingerbread and hear Leota’s Twelve Days of Christmas.
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If Disney wanted to do a Halloween version of classic mansion that made the same improvements as HMH, I'd be for that..

Haunted Mansion Classic feels like the classic grilled cheese. It's a bit old fashioned and dated, but it's still around for a reason. But if I'm celebrating, I'm looking for something a bit fresher than vintage comfort food.

HMH is an elevated experience. The pacing of the attraction is amped up. The mansion is bursting with spooky delights. It feels like a celebration. I would be all in on a different elevated experience for Halloween. In the 90's they at least added scare actors to mansion and Pirates. We'd need a little more than that 30 years later.
 
Professortango1

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mickEblu said:
NBC the movie is much more about Christmas than it is about Halloween. There is no trick or treating, kids dressing up, Halloween parties or anything of the sort. But you do have snow, Santa, gifts, elves, Christmas trees, sleighs, "Santa" going down the chimney etc. Halloweentown is the setting but there is nothing about it that is reminiscent of the actual holiday.

As for Haunted Mansion, the thing has snow on it. The first thing you see is Jack Skellington in a Santa hat by the marquee. The attraction has almost nothing to do with the actual holiday of Halloween other than maybe some of the jackolanterns in outdoor queue. The holidays aren't colliding any more than if Freddy Kruger, Jason or the Creature from the Black Lagoon showed up. Monsters etc aren't inherently "Halloween" other than the fact that its usually the season when those types of movies are released in theaters or viewed at home.
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I have trick or treated in snow on more than a few occasions.

And Halloween iconography of spooky lights, ghosts, monsters, animated objects, pumpkins, candles, barren trees, treats, cold weather, and trick or treaters are all present in HMH. Is there specific Halloween-centric ideas you find to be missing other than the New England autumn look?

The two holidays pair so easily together because they are so similar at their core. Not the Pagan core, but the Catholic adoption. Both celebrations bring on the precipice of the Cold void of lifelessness. We light a game to survive the dark and remember the many that sacrificed their lives for a brighter tomorrow. The essence of both.
 
mickEblu

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Professortango1 said:
I have trick or treated in snow on more than a few occasions.

And Halloween iconography of spooky lights, ghosts, monsters, animated objects, pumpkins, candles, barren trees, treats, cold weather, and trick or treaters are all present in HMH. Is there specific Halloween-centric ideas you find to be missing other than the New England autumn look?

The two holidays pair so easily together because they are so similar at their core. Not the Pagan core, but the Catholic adoption. Both celebrations bring on the precipice of the Cold void of lifelessness. We light a game to survive the dark and remember the many that sacrificed their lives for a brighter tomorrow. The essence of both.
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No not really. Just would like to see it start later in the year. Classic HM is more appropriate during Halloween than HMH.

Most of what you listed isn’t really inherently Halloween or I’m having a hard time picturing where they are on the attraction like the trick or treaters? Clearly they re not the elements of the attraction that are emphasized or memorable. I already mentioned that the movie itself doesn’t even feel like Halloween so it’s not surprising the overlay doesn’t either.
 
Professortango1

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mickEblu said:
No not really. Just would like to see it start later in the year. Classic HM is more appropriate during Halloween than HMH.

Most of what you listed isn’t really inherently Halloween or I’m having a hard time picturing where they are on the attraction like the trick or treaters? Clearly they re not the elements of the attraction that are emphasized or memorable. I already mentioned that the movie itself doesn’t even feel like Halloween so it’s not surprising the overlay doesn’t either.
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Lock, Shock, and Barrel are trick or treaters in the film and in the ride. At the end we get either a trick or a treat in the mirror.
 
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britain

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Put more simply, for people looking for a very Halloweeny activity like going to a spook house, all the Christmas stuff is getting in the way.

For people looking for very Christmasy activities, they probably wouldn't be going to a spook house. But if they are, then they are already in a "worlds collide" frame of mind.

Hence why HMH works for Christmas but not Halloween.
 
Disney Analyst

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britain said:
Put more simply, for people looking for a very Halloweeny activity like going to a spook house, all the Christmas stuff is getting in the way.

For people looking for very Christmasy activities, they probably wouldn't be going to a spook house. But if they are, then they are already in a "worlds collide" frame of mind.

Hence why HMH works for Christmas but not Halloween.
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Agree. Give us regular mansion through October 31st 😤 if they want to make it fun, make it extra spooky during Halloween time.
 
Professortango1

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britain said:
Put more simply, for people looking for a very Halloweeny activity like going to a spook house, all the Christmas stuff is getting in the way.

For people looking for very Christmasy activities, they probably wouldn't be going to a spook house. But if they are, then they are already in a "worlds collide" frame of mind.

Hence why HMH works for Christmas but not Halloween.
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Except you're ignoring people like myself who are looking for a very Halloweeny elevated experience and HMH satisfies that really well when trying to scratch that itch for Halloween.

That being said, I would still love to see HMH take place late Sept/Oct through December rather than August. Or, a Halloween experience for the Mansion. The problem is Disney wouldn't do just a Halloween upgrade as the Christmas period is so popular due to these overlays. They also won't wait until after Halloween since they believe Christmas needs to be 100% ready by Nov 1st, hence why we would buy tickets to "Halloween-Time" and see a Christmas-i-fied Sleeping Beauty's' Castle. It was even worse when we would be paying extra for the Halloween event at Disneyland, especially considering the castle show they used to do in the 90's for the Halloween events.
 

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