OG Runner
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Not disputing anything you are saying, but could you give us some indication as to where you get your information?
Your response was so direct and detailed, I was wondering how you know this.
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Not disputing anything you are saying, but could you give us some indication as to where you get your information?
Your response was so direct and detailed, I was wondering how you know this.
Tom Morrow
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Is Universal Orlando’s Hagrid’s Magical Creature Adventure Already Needing A Redesign?
Theme Park University reader John writes in today’s question. “What information do you have about the Hagrid Coaster being delayed and perhaps needing (eventual) significant redesign? O…
Take with a grain of salt because these guys mostly go off word of mouth... but they also have a decent track record too.
They mention roughness in addition to stronger than expected forces. They mention that removing a car from each train is possibly on the table, although that would involve recalibrating everything.
Of course, we all know this is just a cover up because they realized they forgot to theme that electrical shed
Quinnmac000
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Is Universal Orlando’s Hagrid’s Magical Creature Adventure Already Needing A Redesign?
Theme Park University reader John writes in today’s question. “What information do you have about the Hagrid Coaster being delayed and perhaps needing (eventual) significant redesign? O…themeparkuniversity.com
Take with a grain of salt because these guys mostly go off word of mouth... but they also have a decent track record too.
They mention roughness in addition to stronger than expected forces. They mention that removing a car from each train is possibly on the table, although that would involve recalibrating everything.
Of course, we all know this is just a cover up because they realized they forgot to theme that electrical shed
Shows you didn't actually read the article....
raven
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Team Member previews haven’t happened yet. In fact, as of yet, ride operators still haven’t ridden it.
Quinnmac000
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We have video of people riding it. I think he meant UC personnel. not overall team member.
Mouse Trap
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Yup, along these lines. The wear and tear is considerably more than expected, but nothing that would cause a mass closure or redesign. The average guest won't notice these things.
No delays in opening either, but Universal never does opening dates anymore after the Rip Ride Rockit debacle.
Tom Morrow
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I did... but I read it and other articles about it while half asleep and must've gotten the wires crossed somewhere. My bad.
lazyboy97o
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It wouldn’t be an Intamin if there weren’t at least stories about teething problems.
He isn't splitting hairs. G-forces and roughness are two completely different things. It's like you've never ridden a coaster before.
... what? Every Universal ride has an opening date. This one's is June 13th.
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Tom Morrow
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They didn't announce an opening date for F&F and IIRC, Fallon, Kong, and redone Hulk
What, then, is "roughness"?
Okay, maybe not every ride. But Fallon had an opening date. Kong was supposed to have one, but they had trouble with the RVs and then Pulse happened just as they were ready to announce it. Hulk wasn't a new attraction, and F&F... I don't think they wanted to even acknowledge its existence after soft opening reviews. Can't blame them. Overall, it's still unusual for rides to open without warning.
rough·ness
/ˈrəfnəs/
noun
1.
the quality or state of having an uneven or irregular surface.
"the craggy roughness of every peak"
2.
the quality of lacking gentleness.
"a certain amount of playfighting and roughness is normal for dogs"
raven
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June 13th
Jon81uk
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Generally a coaster is considered rough if it is uncomfortable and the forces are not just part of the thrill of riding. So high G-Force is the fun of riding a rollercoaster, but the feeling of being pushed along a cobble street in a wooden cart is generally not what you want.
OK... so basically shaking.
I ask because people were complaining about Space Mountain being rough due supposedly to all the patchwork welding. And so I was expecting that teeth-chattering cobblestone experience. But when I rode it, it wasn't 'shaky' at all. It did have a lot of sharp turns that weren't banked and it threw me roughly left and right with lateral G-forces. And when I pointed that out in the thread that was discussing how rough Space Mountain was, all of a sudden, people stopped posting about it. This led me to theorize that people were using 'rough' in a vague, undefined way.
So, @Disneyhead'71, is that what you meant by 'rough'?
Space Mountain doesn't produce lateral Gs. It isn't going fast enough. That's just vanilla inertia throwing you around, which is one of the reasons Space Mountain is considered rough. It can also be bumpiness, as previously suggested.
"Inertial throwing you around" is a lateral force (centripetal/centrifugal, depeding on your frame of reference) which can be measured in comparison to the force of a standard G-force. Otherwise Mission:Space has no G-Forces since it swings around laterally, but everyone measures that lateral force in terms of "Gs".
My experience of Space Mountain wasn't that it was 'bumpy.' I don't recall anyone every saying their experience of Space Mountain as being 'bumpy.' They say "rough" a lot, but when I asked if that was bumpiness, no one stepped up to say "yes."
G-force is measured as a perception of weight. Positive Gs give you a feeling of additional weight, or in the case of lateral Gs, a feeling of literally being pushed to the side. Negative Gs produce a feeling of weightlessness. Mission: Space produces both positive and negative Gs; Space Mountain produces neither. It's just low velocity inertia because of the unbanked turns. Your body wants to keep going in the same direction, so you get thrown slightly, but you don't have enough velocity to feel any additional forces besides the sudden change in direction, therefore it's considered a forceless coaster.
It can also be bumpy. It depends on the vehicle, the wheels especially, since that is what is interacting with the track.
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JT3000, Angry much? Thanks for your opinion on the matter. Always fun when a stranger insults you on a message board.
Keep up the good work.
You're welcome.
Except I wasn't sharing an opinion. You can call a tomato whatever you like, but there's a distinct difference between a ride simply having G-forces and being rough. G-forces can lead to roughness, but they're not synonymous. You're going to give people the wrong impression by pretending they're the same.