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[nickys]

Balloons. Mickey shaped. Lots.

#Mary Poppins attraction confirmed as balloon ride!

 

[flynnibus]

That is the way this is normally done, but I am trying to figure out how you get the pull lines over guest areas.

Launch lead lines with guns.. this kind of concept.

Then just move up the size of the line being hauled next. You just keep people out from under your pull area during the actual pull. Which you'd try to do regardless. I don't think that's an issue for people indoors.

 

[Kamikaze]

If they did it that way they would have to close off that section of the resort for safety reasons.

They're going to use a drone or a chopper. This process doesn't take that long in reality.

 

[mmascari]

If they did it that way they would have to close off that section of the resort for safety reasons.

Helicopters, drones, cranes, sling shots, fairy, pixie dust, or whatever. I'm sure they still have to close off the area under the cable as it's being strung.

Until it's actually complete and a loop, one end of it is just an accident away from being a menace if something goes wrong such as mechanical failure in whatever is doing the stringing. Then again, maybe there's almost no tension at all until the very end and it's totally harmless just falling to the ground if an issue occurs.

Either way, I doubt they allow anyone anywhere near being underneath it as it's being strung. That just sounds like poor risk management.

 

[GoofGoof]

Like these people have never put up a chair lift cable?

You do realize the company building this has done it for a long time and it's not that hard to do.

A new chairlift can be installed in the off-season when there aren’t customers skiing beneath it. This is a little different since it’s going over hotel buildings which will likely have guests in them. I’m not saying it can’t or shouldn’t be done, but it does seem to present a unique challenge, at least the small stretch over the hotel rooms.

 

[DisneyCane]

Won't mater over the hotels, the line isn't that heavy the way they do it. Even if something let go it's just a section of heavy cable that would end up on the roof, it won't damage the roof. Only one section could fall and the chances of that are about zero. Same as a high voltage power line. In fact it may weight less then one of them? Don't know the answer to that?

The cable will certainly weigh more than a high voltage power line. It is much thicker and I assume will be steel cable. Power lines are reinforced aluminum.

 

[GoofGoof]

Won't mater over the hotels, the line isn't that heavy the way they do it. Even if something let go it's just a section of heavy cable that would end up on the roof, it won't damage the roof. Only one section could fall and the chances of that are about zero. Same as a high voltage power line. In fact it may weight less then one of them? Don't know the answer to that?

I was thinking more about the risk of a guest walking out the door to their room and something falling on them from above. They could just block off the section they are working on and not rent those rooms, but that’s a lot of room capacity out of service.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The gondolas are so low that bucket lifts and small cranes would seem to be able to do the job. The castle is taller and they don't need a helicopter to string tens of thousands of lights on that.

 

[SLUSHIE]

I thought some guy would just tie it around his waist and climb the tower...

 

[Kamikaze]

Won't mater over the hotels, the line isn't that heavy the way they do it. Even if something let go it's just a section of heavy cable that would end up on the roof, it won't damage the roof. Only one section could fall and the chances of that are about zero. Same as a high voltage power line. In fact it may weight less then one of them? Don't know the answer to that?

This guy cables.

 

[DisneyCane]

You're right on AL, I think but chair lift cables aren't that big. Never measured out but I know It's not that big. Maybe 4 inches tops?

Probably not even 4 inches. The cable is only supporting the load between towers. At the tower, the load is transmitted to the ground. Power transmission lines are not as thick for sure.

 

[zakattack99]

I just think it's time to end this project and go back to the drawing board. I mean I can deal with being bait for giant jumping gators, I'm ok with losing a few guests to being roasted alive in giant flying ovens, I have come to peace with the fact that either I will die of lightning strike or never be able to ride the gondola because its always going to be closed for lightning, but falling cables during construction is just to much this whole project needs to end!

On a side note, if the guy stringing said cable is named Larry... Oh the jokes lol

 

[allgiggles]

These systems have been built in major cities throughout the world, not just ski resorts. I doubt they shut down the whole city while doing it. I'm pretty sure there's a procedure in place for stringing the cables in a populated area and in a few months, we'll know exactly what that procedure is. And if someone has a little bit of down time today, I'm sure Google will provide pictures/blogs from the construction of existing systems and then we wouldn't have to wait so long to find out how they do it.

 

[flynnibus]

Disney isn't going to let people move around under the lines during the process regardless of the size of the line. But it's a pretty dang low risk task... it's not like Disney needs a whole isolation zone. They'd just treat it like any other overhead work most likely... create exclusion zones, create detours or safe crossover points, man it so people don't wander in... and get the job done and clean up. It's not like this is some six month process... even the most disruptive portions would be over in days.

TL: DR - It's a non issue. Even if Disney were to vacate the impacted buildings directly adjacent/under... they could handle it by shuffling people. They've had plenty of planning time to work out how to massage the guest load.

 

[Kamikaze]

They only have to block off the area between the two towers they are stringing at that moment. Which will not take long at all. Then they move on to the next section. I think some of you are under the impression that this is some long drawn out process that will require a safety area of the entire cable run at once. Both of those are incorrect.

With the placements of the towers at CBR, we can see that some of them are very close to the buildings. The cable isn't that heavy, not enough to go through the buildings. So even if it came off the tower during stringing, its not going to fall to the ground.

I've posted videos in this thread of both choppers and drones stringing cable.

 

[Lift Blog]

Per bioreconstruct on Twitter, Riviera is the next station being assembled. Number four of eight.

 

[larryz]

On a side note, if the guy stringing said cable is named Larry... Oh the jokes lol

Hey...!

 

[flynnibus]

The gondolas are so low that bucket lifts and small cranes would seem to be able to do the job. The castle is taller and they don't need a helicopter to string tens of thousands of lights on that.

Yeah... riggers is probably where its at. Has to be positioned etc so just climb/lift them up and drop lines to feed the heavier ones

 

[Lensman]

Per bioreconstruct on Twitter, Riviera is the next station being assembled. Number four of eight.

I'm glad. Now we might get some more definitive answers about how the ADA loading will be organized for this through/turn station.

 

[rocketraccoon]

Hollywood Studios station as of Sunday. More panels ready to be installed are sitting on the roof.

I'm kinda surprised Doppelmayr is going as far as to make their own wheels (check the inner edge of the rubber).