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News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Premium Member
If people aren't worried that their rollercoaster vehicle isn't going to go flying off its track, or their pod in the Mission:Space centrifuge isn't going to decouple and go careening into a wall, I don't know why they'd worry about this. It is demonstrably safer than driving or being in a bus.
I am worried about those things happening. I always envision myself flying into the darkness on Space Mountain. Seems inevitable.

FWIW...

I am far more worried about the SM vehicle flying into actual space then I am of these gondolas being terrorist attacked. It's so aggravating when some dopey dopes start throwing around buzz words like "soft target" because it makes them feel smart.

"oh, WDW gondola system is a soft target, I know because I saw that word on the TV."
 

creathir

Monorail and PeopleMover Fanatic
Premium Member
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I am worried about those things happening. I always envision myself flying into the darkness on Space Mountain. Seems inevitable.

FWIW...

I am far more worried about the SM vehicle flying into actual space then I am of these gondolas being terrorist attacked. It's so aggravating when some dopey dopes start throwing around buzz words like "soft target" because it makes them feel smart.

"oh, WDW gondola system is a soft target, I know because I saw that word on the TV."
What word would you rather be used?

Looking at other mass transport options, which does expose more people to more risk?

Buses? Only the single vehicle is potentially impacted.
Trains? Only the single vehicle, at most one additional in an oncoming derailment situation.
Monorails? Single vehicle.
Boats? Single vessel, maybe another if commandeered and used to ram something.
Gondolas? Potentially 20-40 of these things falling in the HIGHLY unlikely event of the haul rope being severed.

I understand what is being discussed is thankfully NEVER likely to happen, but I sure as heck never thought I'd see airplanes being used as bombs to slam into skyscrapers, yet it did over 15 years ago.

The world is a screwed up place with screwed up people. We are discussing a transport option at a vacation spot. It is something which at least merits discussion.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Premium Member
What word would you rather be used?

Looking at other mass transport options, which does expose more people to more risk?

Buses? Only the single vehicle is potentially impacted.
Trains? Only the single vehicle, at most one additional in an oncoming derailment situation.
Monorails? Single vehicle.
Boats? Single vessel, maybe another if commandeered and used to ram something.
Gondolas? Potentially 20-40 of these things falling in the HIGHLY unlikely event of the haul rope being severed.

I understand what is being discussed is thankfully NEVER likely to happen, but I sure as heck never thought I'd see airplanes being used as bombs to slam into skyscrapers, yet it did over 15 years ago.

The world is a screwed up place with screwed up people. We are discussing a transport option at a vacation spot. It is something which at least merits discussion.
Honestly. Shut up.
 

Minthorne

Well-Known Member
What word would you rather be used?

Looking at other mass transport options, which does expose more people to more risk?

Buses? Only the single vehicle is potentially impacted.
Trains? Only the single vehicle, at most one additional in an oncoming derailment situation.
Monorails? Single vehicle.
Boats? Single vessel, maybe another if commandeered and used to ram something.
Gondolas? Potentially 20-40 of these things falling in the HIGHLY unlikely event of the haul rope being severed.

I understand what is being discussed is thankfully NEVER likely to happen, but I sure as heck never thought I'd see airplanes being used as bombs to slam into skyscrapers, yet it did over 15 years ago.

The world is a screwed up place with screwed up people. We are discussing a transport option at a vacation spot. It is something which at least merits discussion.
If the gondola falls Spider-Man will catch it.
 

righttrack

Well-Known Member
In NYC we have the Rosevelt Island Tram. This is really heavy and strong, probably the type of thing you'd need in Florida Weather. It has heat and AC and holds 125 people. It operates in all weather conditions except winds over 50mph and lightening.

 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
In NYC we have the Rosevelt Island Tram. This is really heavy and strong, probably the type of thing you'd need in Florida Weather. It has heat and AC and holds 125 people. It operates in all weather conditions except winds over 50mph and lightening.

The vehicles will not be anywhere near that large nor will it be a shuttle system.
 

LuvtheGoof

Proud DVC Member
Premium Member
In a world where Bob Iger might run for President of the US, there's no telling what else might happen. Even the dinosaurs in Ellen's Energy Adventure might come to life and start eating guests right out of the transports...
So you're agreeing that it wouldn't be a good thing for him to come back. ;)
 

Capsin4

Well-Known Member
When discussing the next phase of the transportation system overhaul, we have tossed around the concept of connecting the western resorts and AK to the center of WDW via some sort or rail system (automated?). This system would have to be elevated in some areas (mainly around World Drive interchange) so this would explain the height balloons seen at Fantasia Gardens. Additionally, this rail system would have to connect via a transfer center to Epcot and DHS. I see this all potentially happening near the Boardwalk "v" of the gondola.

Here is a new concept map fresh out of MS paint (5th grade computer skills FTW) explaining these ideas:
View attachment 192180
  • Some sort of rail system with CSR possibly having a loop.
  • The transfer station could feature an express Friendship Boat dock to service EPCOT/DHS
  • This system would link AK to AKL
  • Other stops would be Blizzard Beach and an All Star Resorts station
Looks like you don't need the loop between CSR and the transfer station. The line is thick enough to handle two way traffic so that one line could hold the loop.Why rail? couldn't that just be an extension of the gondolas?
 

Lift Blog

Well-Known Member
In NYC we have the Rosevelt Island Tram. This is really heavy and strong, probably the type of thing you'd need in Florida Weather. It has heat and AC and holds 125 people. It operates in all weather conditions except winds over 50mph and lightening.

Aerial tramways are inherently inefficient and have largely fallen out of flavor. Maximum capacity of that system is 1,200 passengers per hour, per direction - equivalent to a two-passenger chairlift.
 
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