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AugieMorosco

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Any new or insider info on opening dates (soft or otherwise) since the latest round of gondola testing? I believe Disney still officially just has "fall". Anyone here know anything more?
 

lentesta

Premium Member
On his podcast @lentesta unfortunately has gone down the “clues of expansion” nonsense rabbit hole. The geometry today has nothing to do with any future lines that would be physically separate and require significant work to transform the turning station. The lines at Caribbean Beach are not parallel.

Half the podcast is some sort of nonsense rabbit hole. Good point about the work required to change a turning station though.
 

danlb_2000

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Original Poster
Half the podcast is some sort of nonsense rabbit hole. Good point about the work required to change a turning station though.

I think they put the turn station where they did because first, it keeps the line away from backstage Epcot as much as possible, and second, the other option would have been the large plot of land behind American Adventure which they may be saving for other things. The land they did use is just big enough for the station.
 

mmascari

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I think they put the turn station where they did because first, it keeps the line away from backstage Epcot as much as possible, and second, the other option would have been the large plot of land behind American Adventure which they may be saving for other things.

Could you get a straight line from IG to that plot of land without going over parts of the park?

The way I see it, they picked the terminal at IG. They picked the terminal at Riviera. Then drew a straight line, and didn't like the path. After that, it's just dragging a point in that straight line to create 2 new straight lines that only crosses stuff they want to cross, which looks like they didn't want it over any of the parks along the way.

They could have picked other routes, not from Riviera, maybe from CBR or direct from HS. My google maps skills aren't up to the task, but starting from IG and drawing a cone shape out that's not to close to France and stays out of the park on the East, and also not to close to the Boardwalk Conference Center on the West. Those would seem to be the limiting factors getting out of IG to anywhere. To my eye, it doesn't look like anyplace in that cone is someplace where you would put a terminal. Which means it has to be a turn station, and it's just picking which terminal to go to then.

I suppose they could have put a double terminal in the HS parking lot, but sending all IG bound guest to HS first sounds sounds like a poor choice for operations.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Any new or insider info on opening dates (soft or otherwise) since the latest round of gondola testing? I believe Disney still officially just has "fall". Anyone here know anything more?

Well... all the insiders were wondering why Disney kept saying "Fall" when everything looked on track for late Spring or early Summer.

Then @marni1971 recently dropped a "uh... so maybe it will be later than we thought...".

And that's where we're at. It's narrowed down to somewhere between April and October.
 

iowamomof4

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Well... all the insiders were wondering why Disney kept saying "Fall" when everything looked on track for late Spring or early Summer.

Then @marni1971 recently dropped a "uh... so maybe it will be later than we thought...".

And that's where we're at. It's narrowed down to somewhere between April and October.
I wonder if this is at least one reason Martin has backed off on the possibility of an earlier opening: http://blogmickey.com/2019/03/disney-skyliner-evacuation-points-at-caribbean-beach-resort/
 

ABQ

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Won't the weight of the people inside have a dampening effect?
Have to ask a physicist to be sure, but I think the weight is only one aspect, it's more the motion of the guests inside that may either counteract the sway or amplify it. Counteracting would work, I believe, similar to the tuned mass damper of a skyscraper.

 

Bender123

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Have to ask a physicist to be sure, but I think the weight is only one aspect, it's more the motion of the guests inside that may either counteract the sway or amplify it. Counteracting would work, I believe, similar to the tuned mass damper of a skyscraper.


Plus its not moving, which will definitely affect any possible sway. The forward motion will likely counteract some of it.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Plus its not moving, which will definitely affect any possible sway. The forward motion will likely counteract some of it.

Physics tells you otherwise... forces unless opposing will continue unabated. So cross-winds are still gonna be blowing side to side no matter the forward movement.

Tho moving through the towers would likely dampen movement some with all the extra contact and movement.
 

joelkfla

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I think they put the turn station where they did because first, it keeps the line away from backstage Epcot as much as possible, and second, the other option would have been the large plot of land behind American Adventure which they may be saving for other things. The land they did use is just big enough for the station.
Not just Epcot, but it threads it's way between Epcot and the BW buildings. It may be the only straight line route to BVD without passing over one or the other.
 

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