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GlacierGlacier

GlacierGlacier

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I'm so glad all these certified engineers in this thread are doing this work. I personally know bombardier was waiting on this very fight to happen in this very thread so their feasibility could be checked, you know, six months from opening. I guess our very famous mathematicians here saved hundreds of thousands of lives by calculating the heat on the system. Time for Disney to tear it all down and use the money on what they really wanted to do instead - Journey into Horizons: starring a fully functioning yeti that didn't need to be removed from the mountain to be repaired.

Edit: Dopplemayer, not Bombardier
 
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GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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GlacierGlacier said:
I'm so glad all these certified engineers in this thread are doing this work. I personally know bombardier was waiting on this very fight to happen in this very thread so their feasibility could be checked, you know, six months from opening. I guess our very famous mathematicians here saved hundreds of thousands of lives by calculating the heat on the system. Time for Disney to tear it all down and use the money on what they really wanted to do instead - Journey into Horizons: starring a fully functioning yeti that didn't need to be removed from the mountain to be repaired.
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Speaking of the Yeti...where were all these guys when that was being built? ;) someone has to do some math or science to solve that mess. Get on it guys :)
 
NormC

NormC

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GlacierGlacier said:
I'm so glad all these certified engineers in this thread are doing this work. I personally know bombardier was waiting on this very fight to happen in this very thread so their feasibility could be checked, you know, six months from opening. I guess our very famous mathematicians here saved hundreds of thousands of lives by calculating the heat on the system. Time for Disney to tear it all down and use the money on what they really wanted to do instead - Journey into Horizons: starring a fully functioning yeti that didn't need to be removed from the mountain to be repaired.
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What does Bombardier have to do with all of this?
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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flynnibus said:
Those materials heat up in the sun more than ambient temperature because metal is a better conductor of the energy than air. The difference is not due to the structure — it’s basic chemistry. The point of the example was to simply illustrate that ambient temperature as a threshold is irrelevant because air doesn’t hold heat like metal does. The direct exposure to the sun is far more powerful than simple ambient air temp.

Metal gets hot in the sun because it will conduct faster than it transfers to the adjacent air. And ambient temp is more relative to the discussion if you want to talk about how efficient the ambient cooling can get. But it’s still going to be hotter than ambient air temp.... so back to my point. Ambient air don’t mean #&&$#* here :)
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In the discussion about the "cable" heating up because of sun directly on it, we need to consider that the cable is moving constantly at the same speed as the gondola. The affected space of the entire cable is only about the top 1/3rd of the cable and it is getting the ambient cooling of that movement through the air, it also changes the direction of travel each half rotation. The only friction it actually has is when it is crossing the towers, which is minimum because the contact wheels move as well and the bullwheel at either end of the path. Ride a bike on a hot day and see how much cooler you keep then just standing in one spot. Steel and processed plastic is far more heat resistant then human beings, but, we can spend a whole day in the direct sun and not ravel at the seams I would guess that material could successfully survive.
 
Creathir

Creathir

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So I’m pretty sure I came up with several of the more ridiculous scenarios concerning ways in which people will die on the Skyliner, but this talk about the cable not being able to handle the temperatures is pretty far out there.

Guest comfort is one thing, but to think this has not been engineered sufficiently to protect guests and (they would argue more importantly) Disney’s reputation as a company is crazy.

These cables will handle the temps and strain just fine. Gondolas really are a safe means of conveyance. Ugly as sin, yes. Potentially uncomfortable to sit in, possibly. Deadly and dangerous from the cable snapping, extremely unlikely.
 
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DisneyCane

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creathir said:
So I’m pretty sure I came up with several of the more ridiculous scenarios concerning ways in which people will die on the Skyliner, but this talk about the cable not being able to handle the temperatures is pretty far out there.

Guest comfort is one thing, but to think this has not been engineered sufficiently to protect guests and (they would argue more importantly) Disney’s reputation as a company is crazy.

These cables will handle the temps and strain just fine. Gondolas really are a safe means of conveyance. Ugly as sin, yes. Potentially uncomfortable to sit in, possibly. Deadly and dangerous from the cable snapping, extremely unlikely.
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Are people seriously discussing this as an issue? I guess if somebody is concerned they should stay off suspension bridges. One hot summer day the George Washington bridge is going to dunk all the cars in the Hudson!
 
networkpro

networkpro

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larryz said:
I know it's not a matter of how he grips it, so, to get back on topic, will the gondola grips have less, the same as, or more gripping power than an African swallow?
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I would hope that the gondola grips would have significantly greater gripping strength than any of the 23 species of African Swallows. Its not the Flinstones.
 

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