NormC
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200 per hour is pretty good with only two 15 person cabins. Basically 14 trips.
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JoeCamel
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Probably not much demand to ski that section. Extreme to say the least but they still have an hour line to ride up
NormC
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Exactly. Only extreme skiers going to try that slope.
ChrisFL
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So you're saying we should have a fast rollercoaster between parks? Actually I like that idea.
But seriously, COMPLETELY different types of scenarios can happen between those two types of rides.
rle4lunch
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Very true. People can get hurt much worse on a rollercoaster. lol...
Analyzing every possible (albeit completely unlikely, like 0.0008% likely) scenarios is asinine to say the least. It's funny to read and shake my head to tho..
raymusiccity
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Ironically, most planes can land themselves, but most pilots prefer to do it. They generally disengage the autopilot at around 2,000 feet and fly the plane for around 5 minutes during landing and takeoff!
rle4lunch
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Ironically, most planes can land themselves, but most pilots prefer to do it. They generally disengage the autopilot at around 2,000 feet and fly the plane for around 5 minutes during landing and takeoff!
yup. It's all dials and radio work after takeoff and before landing...
ChrisFL
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Do you think they'll be running the gondolas in the severe weather we get daily in the summer time without incident? Or will they shut them down several hours per day? You don't think there will be times where gondolas get stuck for various reasons?
rle4lunch
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just like anything else that could be affected by weather, it'll be temporarily unavailable (i.e. Thunder 1 condition).
Ok so now you have me confused because it seems you are contradicting yourself. You just clearly stated you boarded a bus that " circling from " MK to WL to FtW to MK" and it went to the settlement not the outpost. So, regardless if it went to the the settlement or the outpost it's still "FtW" ! Why would you say in one thread you have no knowledge of the route and then clearly state you rode it in another? It's called the "green " route from its roots as FtW which nowadays also includes WL. "Green" is associated with trees and woods hence " green route " WL is a woodsy type atmosphere as well as FtW. You also said the driver you talked to indicated he was new, I would not consider him a reliable source. Disney has many special routes that depending on the location the driver is working he/she may not have exposure to, this is not unusual. I've had many a conversation with seasoned drivers (years of exp) who still have Eureka! moments when they go to another hub that they hardly worked out of. Lastly, bus Ops and coordinators do know about the " green route". Disney Transportation has many facets and this is why we teach about it at Disney University, many ( like you) just don't get complete exposure. It's nothing to be embarrassed about, after all .
ChrisFL
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Ok, and suddenly everything reverts to what it was like prior to having the gondolas. At least going to MK, the Ferry is an alternative option to the monorail. Here, you're back to buses as the only means of transport.
I guess the good part is that mid-afternoon should be the slow time for transporting guests.
How tall would the initial lift hill at the first park need to be to coast all the way to the second park?
Assuming the glide part is relatively flat, so that it doesn't need to have a huge difference in elevation between the end of the hill and arrival at the destination park.
Given those answers, how much of a thrill ride does it need to be? On a scale of "Not gonna ride it" to "Even an ECV can use it".
Has anyone modeled the possible routes, heights, and speeds in Roller Coaster Tycoon? (I know someone is thinking about it RIGHT NOW.)
rle4lunch
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basically, which really isn't a big deal right? The gondolas are more of a 'treat' in my view.
peter11435
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The route exits operationaly. I’ve ridden it. But again, no guest facing signage or collateral shows it’s existence. Unless they are in the know somehow or talk to an informed bus driver a guest will never know they can take a bus from FW to MK.
ChrisFL
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DisneyCane
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Most of those buttons and dials aren't even used to fly the plane under normal circumstances. A lot of the stuff in between the pilots is for entering flight plans and setting radio frequencies. The overhead panel is mostly secondary things like cabin temperature, the seat belt sign, etc.
I think in addition to the feeling of control, another factor is that when in an automobile accident there is a reasonable chance of survival, even with no major injuries. If you're involved in a plane cash that isn't a runway over run or landing a little short there is little chance of survival and if you do survive, injuries are likely to be severe. It makes things like that Souix City crash landing at miracle that so many survived.
At the top of Lone Peak the easiest way down is a single black diamond (Liberty Bowl) with everything else being double black diamond and really steep. There are a few runs that before skiing you need to check out with the ski patrol. Good stuff. You always have a line on a good snow day. There are always a couple hundred crazies like me who want to get up there!
It just amazes me that we use lifts like this all the time in the nastiest of weather and all our Skyliner friends are worried about how to evac. Will an evac be needed at some point in the first 20 years...possibly...but unlikely. If they have to do an evac will it be hard compared to evacing in some of these mountain evironments? Nope.
No, I never said there was no present service from the Fort to MK. I questioned your statement that it was to the Outpost, that it's always been there, and the implication that it's regular full-time service.
I'm certain that if the route existed when I was trained for the Fort internal shuttle years ago, I would have been told about it, rather than making Guests change buses twice to go to WL and then MK. At the time I trained for MK, new drivers were trained on all routes based at the hub (I know that procedure changed over the years.) I drove the route between MK & WL many times, and the only time it went to the Fort at that time was when the boats were not running.
I have no 1st-hand knowledge of current routes, other than my recent experience traveling from WL to MK. I was told by a driver at FtW about a year ago that MK service started at 4 p.m. That was reinforced by the driver on my recent trip, though he was less specific. I've also seen it stated numerous times on the web. There have also been reports of special buses running to MK at the end of Hoop De Doo, or directly to resorts when HDDR ended after MK close. The official map I linked in my previous post tells Guests to take the boat to MK, which wouldn't make sense if there were a full-time bus to MK at the time the map was printed, although I recognize that Disney often edits info distributed to Guests to reduce confusion, and for "business purposes".
Now, as I said, it's possible that service was expanded to full-time within recent times, but I am confident that it did not exist 5-12 years ago, unless it was some sort of covert operation that was hidden from Guests and drivers.
I suggest you check with your coordinators at MK bus ops or with some senior drivers, as you may be giving out incorrect info in your classes. (Bus managers may not have past knowledge unless they came up through bus ops.) You said you teach at Disney U, so I assume you deal with the general cm population, not Transportation cm's specifically. As you probably know, cm's outside of Transportation are notorious for giving out incorrect transportation info, so it's important that they are given accurate info.