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ABQ

ABQ

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Lift Blog said:
That is consistent with how most ski resorts run gondolas and detachable chairlifts.
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However, most guests at a ski resorts are familiar with boarding and de-boarding processes of the gondolas. I'm betting, at least initially, as the families of 5, 7 and even 10 people parties approach the system with so much confusion, like the ignorant dad with his double wide, extra long stroller, weighed down with countless provisions for the day who doesn't know how to collapse it for a bus has similar issues at the gondola, even if they don't have to be collapsed, but as the kids all fight over where to sit as the gondola line keeps turning and he tries to get in the door. They'll run a little slower than 11 MPH until that is sorted out.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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ABQ said:
However, most guests at a ski resorts are familiar with boarding and de-boarding processes of the gondolas. I'm betting, at least initially, as the families of 5, 7 and even 10 people parties approach the system with so much confusion, like the ignorant dad with his double wide, extra long stroller, weighed down with countless provisions for the day who doesn't know how to collapse it for a bus has similar issues at the gondola, even if they don't have to be collapsed, but as the kids all fight over where to sit as the gondola line keeps turning and he tries to get in the door. They'll run a little slower than 11 MPH until that is sorted out.
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Ski resorts still have people who are first time visitors and plenty run their lifts year-round for other tourists. There isn't some gondola boarding school that skiers must first attend.
 
xdan0920

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
lazyboy97o said:
Ski resorts still have people who are first time visitors and plenty run their lifts year-round for other tourists. There isn't some gondola boarding school that skiers must first attend.
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Yet.

If Disney has a gondola class, for an hour pre park opening, calls it Gondola Magic and offers you some avocado toast, all for the low low price of $90pp. Might that interest you?

Before you answer, let me remind you that this is a premium and exclusive class experience. Those are important words.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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xdan0920 said:
Yet.

If Disney has a gondola class, for an hour pre park opening, calls it Gondola Magic and offers you some avocado toast, all for the low low price of $90pp. Might that interest you?

Before you answer, let me remind you that this is a premium and exclusive class. Those are important words.
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more importantly will it include a cupcake? and can I get a souvenir pin saying I was one of the exclusive few?
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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xdan0920 said:
Yet.

If Disney has a gondola class, for an hour pre park opening, calls it Gondola Magic and offers you some avocado toast, all for the low low price of $90pp. Might that interest you?

Before you answer, let me remind you that this is a premium and exclusive class experience. Those are important words.
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Do I get to lecture people afterwards about the great value of upcharges and how hard I work at 67 posts per minute?
 
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Ripken10

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ABQ said:
However, most guests at a ski resorts are familiar with boarding and de-boarding processes of the gondolas. I'm betting, at least initially, as the families of 5, 7 and even 10 people parties approach the system with so much confusion, like the ignorant dad with his double wide, extra long stroller, weighed down with countless provisions for the day who doesn't know how to collapse it for a bus has similar issues at the gondola, even if they don't have to be collapsed, but as the kids all fight over where to sit as the gondola line keeps turning and he tries to get in the door. They'll run a little slower than 11 MPH until that is sorted out.
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The speed of the gondola (11 mph) has nothing to do with the speed of boarding. Whether it was 15.8 mph or 8 mph, it would be the same speed at loading. So no, they will not be slowing it down until it gets sorted out.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Original Poster
Ripken10 said:
The speed of the gondola (11 mph) has nothing to do with the speed of boarding. Whether it was 15.8 mph or 8 mph, it would be the same speed at loading. So no, they will not be slowing it down until it gets sorted out.
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I would think there would be some correlation, because if you increase the speed of the cable, you either have to speed up the load/unload or reduce the number of cars so you have a large gap between cars.
 
ABQ

ABQ

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I was thinking if you run at full speed (let's just say it's 11 MPH), but load times are taking longer than anticipated, that unload would become a bit like the end of It's a Small World, where boats are all backed up.
 
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Ripken10

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danlb_2000 said:
I would think there would be some correlation, because if you increase the speed of the cable, you either have to speed up the load/unload or reduce the number of cars so you have a large gap between cars.
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I believe the only change that occurs is the distance of the gondolas on the cables outside the station. It has no barring on what happens inside the station. it is off the line. There is always gondolas in the station that will be at the load speed that are not ready to be boarded yet (as they are still loading other gondolas). If it takes too long to board a gondola, from my experience, a gondola is just skipped in the line. That happens at ski resorts, but not very often with gondolas from my experience. Now chair lifts, a completely different story.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Original Poster
ABQ said:
I was thinking if you run at full speed (let's just say it's 11 MPH), but load times are taking longer than anticipated, that unload would become a bit like the end of It's a Small World, where boats are all backed up.
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Load times are not variable, the cars are always moving at the same speed in the station.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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NormC said:
I am betting on a little faster. Obviously they wouldn't run at max speed of 15.6 but 11 is slow. Maybe 13?
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I imagine two factors... one... Disney is designing for idiots to run them... so keep your margin of error high to account for that. Two... they’d rather run a little slower and less risk of cascading than constantly running faster and have to be more perfect... (again, less operator input/risk)...

Slower speed along with whatever cabin density they run can give them more time in the station.

You gotta start somewhere... the great thing here is it’s easy to adjust if they want to run harder :)
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

Premium Member
Ripken10 said:
The speed of the gondola (11 mph) has nothing to do with the speed of boarding. Whether it was 15.8 mph or 8 mph, it would be the same speed at loading. So no, they will not be slowing it down until it gets sorted out.
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But they are correlated. The station needs to be able to accept the incoming gondolas. So the rate of incoming gondolas is “limited” by the station. Yes the two systems run at different line speeds... but they try to maintain a 1:1 transfer ratio. Disney won’t send any guests around a loop a second time... they’d slow the line if the station were to cascade.

Disney’s target line speed and cabin density would be constrained by what they want their station operating procedures to be.
 

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