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[LieutLaww]

You mean the Hitch Hiking Ghosts

 

[nickys]

You mean the Hitch Hiking Ghosts

Aww, it's been pages since the last mention of doom and destruction. I was hoping for a little more fun!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Why not just paint the gondola tower behind France green? That would help to reduce its visual impact in the background.

The one behind France will be peeking over the roof tops, so, green isn't go-away against a light blue sky. Grey is.

 

[GoofGoof]

The one behind France will be peeking over the roof tops, so, green isn't go-away against a light blue sky. Grey is.

This is a valid point that I didn’t really think about in this whole debate. Maybe they need a way to change the color of the tower based on the weather...could be where the huge budget is going

Either that or perhaps a strobe light that just distracts guests and makes them look away

 

[raymusiccity]

This is a valid point that I didn’t really think about in this whole debate. Maybe they need a way to change the color of the tower based on the weather...could be where the huge budget is going

Either that or perhaps a strobe light that just distracts guests and makes them look away

 

[Movielover]

This is a valid point that I didn’t really think about in this whole debate. Maybe they need a way to change the color of the tower based on the weather...could be where the huge budget is going

Either that or perhaps a strobe light that just distracts guests and makes them look away

Or they could just hand out glasses with the top half smeared with Vaseline to obscure the towers...

Heck it even more accurately depicts Europe's weather.

 

[smile]

You mean the Hitch Hiking Ghosts

starting to worry about mr. thumb... dude's still humpin it
- does he realize how diminished his odds of success are while traveling in a suspended cable car? DOES HE EVEN CARE ANYMORE?!

 

[Goofyernmost]

I know that perhaps my focus is on things other then sight-lines, but, I am aware that the Dolphin and Swan are visible from Epcot. I also made the comment to a friend when they were building Soarin how obvious that building is. Now I can truthfully say that I do not notice any of that unless I happen to think about it when I'm there. I really don't. I am far more focused of the things that are at eye level and more attractive then those items. Now we are upset because a very small portion of the top of the gondola towers might be visible (I still doubt that they will be all that obvious when it is completed). I feel sorry for people that cannot seem to get over tiny things and let their own imaginations be the Vaseline on their glasses. It really does work. If you don't try to find fault, the chances are you won't find any.

 

[ParksAndPixels]

*Starting a petition to paint swan & dolphin sky blue*

 

[GoofGoof]

I know that perhaps my focus is on things other then sight-lines, but, I am aware that the Dolphin and Swan are visible from Epcot. I also made the comment to a friend when they were building Soarin how obvious that building is. Now I can truthfully say that I do not notice any of that unless I happen to think about it when I'm there. I really don't. I am far more focused of the things that are at eye level and more attractive then those items. Now we are upset because a very small portion of the top of the gondola towers might be visible (I still doubt that they will be all that obvious when it is completed). I feel sorry for people that cannot seem to get over tiny things and let their own imaginations be the Vaseline on their glasses. It really does work. If you don't try to find fault, the chances are you won't find any.

Disney set the expectations where they are with attention to detail. You know the whole story that Walt wanted the MK in FL to have the tunnels so frontier Mickey didn’t have to walk through fantasyland to get to work. It was a flaw that existed at DLR. People still enjoyed DL and probably didn’t really care but Disney wanted to improve the attention to detail.

WDW is held to a much higher standard than other parks (a self imposed higher standard). There are literally dozens of examples that are far more obvious and distracting than the EPCOT ones you listed at the Universal parks and they are the closest thing to Disney in terms of attention to detail. That doesn’t mean people don’t enjoy those parks (millions and millions of people). It’s just a different expectation going in. That’s why seeing a small part of the tower over the building in France seems like a big deal. People just expect more. It doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be able to enjoy the park anyway.

Soarin is a pretty big eye sore. However, EPCOT was kinda designed to have the show buildings visible in the park (at least the front half of the park). They aren’t hidden like most of the other parks. Outside of SSE it is the only one that really stands out from WS so that’s the issue.

 

[GlacierGlacier]

Bioreconstruct with photos from DHS Skyliner Station:

 

[ABQ]

Between the monorail, the buses and now the skyliner, Disney ought to invest in its own vulcanization plant. That's a whole lot of rubber in use every day.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Disney set the expectations where they are with attention to detail. You know the whole story that Walt wanted the MK in FL to have the tunnels so frontier Mickey didn’t have to walk through fantasyland to get to work. It was a flaw that existed at DLR. People still enjoyed DL and probably didn’t really care but Disney wanted to improve the attention to detail.

WDW is held to a much higher standard than other parks (a self imposed higher standard). There are literally dozens of examples that are far more obvious and distracting than the EPCOT ones you listed at the Universal parks and they are the closest thing to Disney in terms of attention to detail. That doesn’t mean people don’t enjoy those parks (millions and millions of people). It’s just a different expectation going in. That’s why seeing a small part of the tower over the building in France seems like a big deal. People just expect more. It doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be able to enjoy the park anyway.

Soarin is a pretty big eye sore. However, EPCOT was kinda designed to have the show buildings visible in the park (at least the front half of the park). They aren’t hidden like most of the other parks. Outside of SSE it is the only one that really stands out from WS so that’s the issue.

OK, I know that they blew their own horn on the "higher standard" thing and in very many ways have kept that. But, if you compare it to the utiladors which are not seen by the public and look at what we have gotten since Walt died, I don't know how anyone can think that the haven't kept that "higher standard" in many way. Why couldn't, for example, the Gondola's as a mode of transportation from resorts to the parks, not be right up there with the utilidors. Is it just because we refuse to acknowledge it or is it because we have seen that in theme parks resorts everywhere. There are mechanical elements of the Gondola that cannot be completely hidden, unlike burying thing underground. People here seem to be bent on the thought that Disney or anyone else can alter the laws of physics or, to make it simple, the very fact that these items are in the open and therefore will be seen, at least in part, from many places in the area. That doesn't make them against the "high standards" of Walt Disney, who put gondola's in Disneyland and, by extension, in MK with absolutely no attempt to make them something other then what they were. It's like we take the words, "higher standard" and apply it to anything we feel like applying it too. It doesn't work that way.

Soarin may be a big eyesore if that is what you focus on, but, where would you suggest they put that building and what way would you disguise a massive structure so that no one would ever have to see it. Some of the demands of a limited public about this stuff are beyond physical possibility. Like I said before, it is there and unless I actually think to look for it, I do not notice it at all, and for most people even if they do, they just plain don't care. That isn't a standard that is miracle seeking. If only someone would invent invisible solid structures we would all be happier.

 

[montyz81]

It’s messy. And lazy.

So is the view of Soarin from across World Showcase. So won’t the view of UoE be once it is done. The current generation of leadership does not care about “show” like Walt demanded.. that is unless it it says “....me the money” after it.

 

[cosmicgirl]

They're putting in the inner turn today. As always, a big thank you to bioreconstruct.

 

[marni1971]

OK, I know that they blew their own horn on the "higher standard" thing and in very many ways have kept that. But, if you compare it to the utiladors which are not seen by the public and look at what we have gotten since Walt died, I don't know how anyone can think that the haven't kept that "higher standard" in many way. Why couldn't, for example, the Gondola's as a mode of transportation from resorts to the parks, not be right up there with the utilidors. Is it just because we refuse to acknowledge it or is it because we have seen that in theme parks resorts everywhere. There are mechanical elements of the Gondola that cannot be completely hidden, unlike burying thing underground. People here seem to be bent on the thought that Disney or anyone else can alter the laws of physics or, to make it simple, the very fact that these items are in the open and therefore will be seen, at least in part, from many places in the area. That doesn't make them against the "high standards" of Walt Disney, who put gondola's in Disneyland and, by extension, in MK with absolutely no attempt to make them something other then what they were. It's like we take the words, "higher standard" and apply it to anything we feel like applying it too. It doesn't work that way.

Soarin may be a big eyesore if that is what you focus on, but, where would you suggest they put that building and what way would you disguise a massive structure so that no one would ever have to see it. Some of the demands of a limited public about this stuff are beyond physical possibility. Like I said before, it is there and unless I actually think to look for it, I do not notice it at all, and for most people even if they do, they just plain don't care. That isn't a standard that is miracle seeking. If only someone would invent invisible solid structures we would all be happier.

The utilidor existence points to that very same "higher standard"

 

[GlacierGlacier]

They're putting in the inner turn today. As always, a big thank you to bioreconstruct.

I am still amazed at the speed of this installation. We're going to be very disappointed in a month or so when they begin station building construction and we see them fall back do the Disney pace

 

[cosmicgirl]

I am still amazed at the speed of this installation. We're going to be very disappointed in a month or so when they begin station building construction and we see them fall back do the Disney pace

The current pace is really making me hope that they'll just about finish the DHS line before going back to the remaining stations, just so we can see how it'll all fit together and so one part of it would be ready. They have roof panels on site so it can't be far off. But the nerd in me is not looking forward to them covering up the mechanics because I want to see how it all works!

 

[Creathir]

So is the view of Soarin from across World Showcase. So won’t the view of UoE be once it is done. The current generation of leadership does not care about “show” like Walt demanded.. that is unless it it says “....me the money” after it.

Haha!

“Show me the money Mickey... SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!”

 

[montyz81]

OK, I know that they blew their own horn on the "higher standard" thing and in very many ways have kept that. But, if you compare it to the utiladors which are not seen by the public and look at what we have gotten since Walt died, I don't know how anyone can think that the haven't kept that "higher standard" in many way. Why couldn't, for example, the Gondola's as a mode of transportation from resorts to the parks, not be right up there with the utilidors. Is it just because we refuse to acknowledge it or is it because we have seen that in theme parks resorts everywhere. There are mechanical elements of the Gondola that cannot be completely hidden, unlike burying thing underground. People here seem to be bent on the thought that Disney or anyone else can alter the laws of physics or, to make it simple, the very fact that these items are in the open and therefore will be seen, at least in part, from many places in the area. That doesn't make them against the "high standards" of Walt Disney, who put gondola's in Disneyland and, by extension, in MK with absolutely no attempt to make them something other then what they were. It's like we take the words, "higher standard" and apply it to anything we feel like applying it too. It doesn't work that way.

Soarin may be a big eyesore if that is what you focus on, but, where would you suggest they put that building and what way would you disguise a massive structure so that no one would ever have to see it. Some of the demands of a limited public about this stuff are beyond physical possibility. Like I said before, it is there and unless I actually think to look for it, I do not notice it at all, and for most people even if they do, they just plain don't care. That isn't a standard that is miracle seeking. If only someone would invent invisible solid structures we would all be happier.

Remember Walt’s quote...”In Florida, we have the blessing of size.” I am pretty sure that didn’t mean build bigger buildings. That said, the contemporary is a much bigger building ant that is hidden in plane sight. The laziness that is clearly evident is visible in so many ways. For Soarin that comes in the way of them not even attempting to hid it from view. A simple facade could have been constructed to make it blend in with Canada. For the Skyliner it could be a simple facade or something. I just get the Spence that they aren’t even trying now. They are putting things up Fast and Furious (yes I meant that as a reference to the pour reception of the latest addition to Universal)