But you were asking about the afternoon, right?
When they are 20 minutes apart.
Come back when you're able to discuss this in good faith and don't keep changing the goal posts to cheat your wins.
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But you were asking about the afternoon, right?
When they are 20 minutes apart.
Come back when you're able to discuss this in good faith and don't keep changing the goal posts to cheat your wins.
That's actually lower than I expected. By cutting out a swath of trees, the gondolas will be passing below the top of the tree line.
The could put some trees between the two to hide it.
I wonder how far away this pic was taken. The closer you get to the France pavilion, the buildings will block the gondola towers more and more so.
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Because 5,000 is like a super fast and efficient number where you're sending out a gondola every 5 seconds completely full in best case scenarios. I used the manufacturer's number of 2,200 pph to get 200 every 6 minutes (technically, 220/6min) as a more likely operational number.
Now that we know that each terminus is likely to have a double load, well, then, 5,000 looks to be pretty attainable.
trainplane3
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From what I could get on Google Maps, roughly here:
Which puts me about here:
Obviously Google is lacking a a good lens, but this seems to be pretty close based off the street lamps, building angle, and the amount of the opening visible between the tower and the top of the building it's on.
Personally, I'm not going to lose sleep over this. Hopefully there's a plan to help block out the gondola tower a bit more. It's just fun to make fun of it.
Goofyernmost
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If only we actually knew what it was going to look like after they complete the construction. Now then we would have something to actually complain about.
I always use this photo to remind people of just how good Disney can be at hiding stuff.
NeedMoreMickey
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It's now that train/car wreck that you can't pass without looking at it
Lensman
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And yet this is also one of the best updated threads with overhead photography multiple times a week! I've also learned an incredible amount about urban gondola systems and detachable lift systems in general.
I'm not sure this has been answered, so I'll take a shot at it.
I believe what is being referred to is that there would be one continuous haul rope, but the cabins would detach from it and turn around the corners as if it were two haul ropes. If you don't need to run any sections independently and can power the entire loop of rope with one large motor, this makes sense as it centralizes the maintenance and reduces the complexity of two of the stations. Each stations drive tires can then be powered by the movement of the rope passing through the terminal, further reducing complexity.
Riviera is likely the least busy station of the entire system, so wheelchairs and strollers can be mixed in with regular passengers. The cabins move slow enough that stroller loading is a non issue. As we've seen in a couple of videos in previous posts, it's possible to load wheelchairs too. With the number of less experienced ECV riders at WDW, it may be necessary to slow or stop the system if there are issues, but these stops take only a few seconds, and only if needed.
We have seen somewhat unusual foundation patterns at Riviera though, perhaps there is another solution at play.
It's too bad the lifting frame on top of the tower integrates supports for the catwalks and couldn't be removed to reduce the visual impact.
For those who might not understand what I mean, the trapezoidal metal structure atop the tower serves as an attachment point to lift the cables up onto the tower, at installation and should the cable fall off or need to be removed for maintenance. It also supports the communication lines between towers. Some lifts have been built without lifting frames as a cost cutting measure, in which case a frame can be lifted up and bolted on if it is needed.
For this one tower, if the lifting frame could have been removed, or redesigned to fold down if it wasn't in use, that would have been neat to see.
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GeneralKnowledge
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SRSLY? Your parenting skills discredit your entire opinion.
The elevation of guest areas at the Magic Kingdom makes it much easier to hide show buildings. Even at Dinosaur there is a slight incline to the entrance so as to better hide the massive show building.
nickys
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Also, because Riviera is a DVC resort, it's reasonable to assume that many of the ECV riders will be repeat visitors and used to riding ECVs on and off buses and monorails at least, which will make loading and unloading at this station easier.
Not only that. The early part of the thread is simply amazing. Anyone who hasn't done so should really go back and read it. The way the whole thing was pieced together by a group of our members, months before anything was released by Disney, from nothing more than permits never ceases to amaze me.
Goofyernmost
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Sorry, but that makes no sense at all. Yes they did raise the ground level, but, then they built on top of the new ground level so it is the same affect no matter where you are. That show building at HM is not below ground. What they are going to do remains a mystery and will do so until it is completed. Even then, just like Disneyland and Magic Kingdom after it, many of the show buildings were visible until the trees and shrubs were allowed to grow eventually covering the intended target.
You, because you have a point to prove will probably go there with the single focus of proving yourself correct. The rest of us will be focusing on the fun things to do in the parks and will either not even notice that stuff, but, even if we do have our priorities set to who cares.
peter11435
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This is simply not true. Many of the show buildings in the Magic Kingdom are built at ground level which is below the park level the guests enter from. Including the Haunted Mansion you mention. If you exit the Haunted Mansion show building Anywhere around the perimeter of the building you will need to walk uphill and upstairs to get back into the park.
Goofyernmost
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Not that I recall. As soon at you make the corner going toward Fantasyland you start going downhill, but, frankly not important enough to argue about. The point was they know how to cover things when the want to. HM is right along side the rivers of America and it is above it. That river has to be completely level to maintain water levels, so it would take some hard facts to convince me that it is below the river level.
peter11435
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Ever notice that when you board the riverboat from park level you board on the second deck. Park level is well above ground level and the level of the river. The bottom of the Haunted Mansion show building is essentially at the same level as the river. But guests enter the building well above this enabling a significant portion of the building to be sunken below park level.
Goofyernmost
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Is it just me or is that the park level is above the river level just the argument that I was just using. I cannot be above the level and below it at the same time. So let's just leave it on the fact that none of the gigantic show building is visible to any of us and it usually comes as a shock that we have never noticed it. Any sight blocking would be adjusted to the proximity of the ground level no matter where it is.
peter11435
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You are missing the point. The foundation of the show building is at the same level as the river. If the bottom of the show building was at the same level as the park level outside the mansion then the show building would rise higher above the tree line from the guest perspective. They were aided by the fact that a portion of the building could be hidden below the perspective of the guests.