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BlindChow

Well-Known Member
Yes, they invested money in Rocket Rods, but that doesn't mean everything they invest money in now will fail.
*long deep sigh*

You claimed Disney would NOT invest money in a ride system that would fail.

So I cited one that did.

Sometimes a forum post is that simple. I didn't say anything about "everything they invest money in..." :rolleyes:

;)
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
*long deep sigh*

You claimed Disney would NOT invest money in a ride system that would fail.

So I cited one that did.

Sometimes a forum post is that simple. I didn't say anything about "everything they invest money in..." :rolleyes:

;)
Let me try to explain this one last time. It's not a ride or a ride system it's transportation. Disney is in the business of designing and building theme parks and rides. They don't make buses or gondolas. They are buying this from a 3rd party who specializes in building these systems just like they would buy a bus or an oven for a kitchen in a restaurant. My original point was they are not experts in gondolas so they would rely on the 3rd party vendor who is an expert to advise them if AC was needed. I said they wouldn't invest in a gondola system that was not suitable for the climate in FL and therefore destined to fail. Your example of a theme park ride that they invested in and failed is irrelevant.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Here is your exact quote. You said this:


So I cited a system [the Rocket Rods] that Disney invested money in that didn't work. I literally made no other proclamations about the gondolas.

It's not rocket science, these forums... :D Sometimes you just have to actually read the words the other guy types.

Weird concept, huh...? :rolleyes:
Read my last post. It's the best I can do to explain my position. If that's not good enough we can agree to disagree. I stand by my original statement that Disney wouldn't invest money in a gondola that wouldn't work in that climate.
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
I just came across this recently online. No clue if it's a reputable source or not but to summarize: Disney and the manufacturer are targeting a standard evac protocol for the gondolas at 12 mins since the gondolas won't have AC. They are at 15 minutes but Disney is pushing for 12 for guest comfort.

Can any of the insiders confirm this?

https://www.google.com/amp/ridevine.io/2017/04/rumor-disney-world-gondolas-wont-ac/amp/
Seems like an amalgamation of forums. Don't know if I would be following that as the echo would deafen me
 

BlindChow

Well-Known Member
I honestly think there would be less concern if Disney announced teleportation between parks.

Yeah well we've SEEN what happens when Disney does teleportation...

TEMP disney teleport.jpg
 
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DHoy

Active Member
12 minutes for evacuation ... seems pretty un-likely since most attractions arent evacuated for at least 20-30 minutes. In this case due to more heat re-lated reasons i could see the call being made sooner. But what is the timeline, if the gondola stops and cant be recovered in 2 minutes is the decision to evac. thus creating an call for all RCID firetrucks in order to remove all guests in 12 minutes. can the trucks even get there in 12 minutes?

Logistics of evacs for this transportation system are tough. I guess the station on BVD will invest in another ladder truck. Im sure that partnerships with Orange and Osceola Counties will benefit if any event ever happens so that all designated park crews wont be required.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
12 minutes for evacuation ... seems pretty un-likely since most attractions arent evacuated for at least 20-30 minutes. In this case due to more heat re-lated reasons i could see the call being made sooner. But what is the timeline, if the gondola stops and cant be recovered in 2 minutes is the decision to evac. thus creating an call for all RCID firetrucks in order to remove all guests in 12 minutes. can the trucks even get there in 12 minutes?

Logistics of evacs for this transportation system are tough. I guess the station on BVD will invest in another ladder truck. Im sure that partnerships with Orange and Osceola Counties will benefit if any event ever happens so that all designated park crews wont be required.
I assume the 12 minutes would be from the time they called to order the evac not the time the system stops. I'm sure it will stop more frequently for simple issues like load/unload delays. An evac would only occur if the system failed and they couldn't get it back running again.
 

roj2323

Well-Known Member
12 minutes for evacuation ... seems pretty un-likely since most attractions arent evacuated for at least 20-30 minutes. In this case due to more heat re-lated reasons i could see the call being made sooner. But what is the timeline, if the gondola stops and cant be recovered in 2 minutes is the decision to evac. thus creating an call for all RCID firetrucks in order to remove all guests in 12 minutes. can the trucks even get there in 12 minutes?

Logistics of evacs for this transportation system are tough. I guess the station on BVD will invest in another ladder truck. Im sure that partnerships with Orange and Osceola Counties will benefit if any event ever happens so that all designated park crews wont be required.

Disney is likely to have a few pickup trucks with scissor lifts mounted on the back for gondola evacuation rather than relying on the fire department (although they might be reedy creek FD labeled) This would make evacuating a line pretty quick as it would be maybe 3-4 minutes per gondola to park under it, set the outriggers and scissor up to it. If the scissor lift is large enough they could land the gondola on it and the guests would simply step off onto the platform. This would ultimately be a pretty fast operation and with 2 or 3 trucks they could clear a line in 20-30 minutes which is entirely reasonable.
 

GCTales

Well-Known Member
I honestly think there would be less concern if Disney announced teleportation between parks.
Do you how hot those teleportation pads get? Plus what happens if a fly lands on you during the process? You know Disney s always cutting costs... I mean couldn't they invest in a simple Biofilter.. I mean how much can they cost? What's a few billion to Disney?

<now back to the important topic at hand... CONSTRUCTION PICS!!!!>

<edit: fixed typos>
 

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