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ABQ

ABQ

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danlb_2000 said:
It will depend on the speed of the gondola, but it may end up being pretty close. The gondola will move faster, but you will have to transfer at CBR so it will also depend on how long the line is at CBR.
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Boardwalk would be shorter to walk directly to DHS, I'm sure. Beach Club would be the one I'd take a gondola for, I bet. Though with the CBR transfer time being the question. YC....maybe a toss up.
 
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mmascari

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creathir said:
If I was designing it, I would have those and onboard backup batteries in the floor or roof.

Normal usage: the ultracaps
Emergency use: the batteries

Then they can also include other nifty stuff onboard such as infotainment systems, music/communication systems, security cameras, etc. All increasing guest enjoyment while also improving the safety and comfort of the guests.
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You're missing a trade off in this. All that stuff has a weight.

Right from the start, the line, number of towers, size of cable, anchors, and all the rest set a maximum weight load for the system. This impacts both how much each gondola can weigh and how close together they can be.

Load up a gondola with all those extra things and you cannot carry as many passengers. Say a nominal 10 passenger car. Then you add 3 passengers weight worth of extra equipment. Now it's a 7 passenger car and you've reduced the throughput/system capacity by 30%.

You could also do the reverse. Change the materials used to comparable but lighter materials and maybe you increase the capacity by 10%. Carbon fiber cabins, cost doesn't matter!

It's all a trade off, looking for some balance. Something like solar reflective coatings to reflect direct heating from the sun are probably nice and light comparably, and somewhere in the middle on cost.

A Rolls Royce car with all the super amenities and comforts one could ever want, but it can only carry 1 person now, doesn't really help anyone. Alternatively, a rope harness that weighs almost nothing is probably too minimalist to be practical, but it would be super light, add all those extra people. :)

I'm sure they're trying to balance all of this as part of the design. We may not agree with every trade off, but someone has to make those calls.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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MCast said:
Question: For those staying at the BW, YC & BC, would it be faster for guests to travel to/from DHS via the gondola, walking or water taxi?
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MisterPenguin said:
Between boat, gondola, and bus, the fastest way to go between Epcot and DHS is on foot.
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But seriously, walking over to the IG station and then having to transfer a CBR southern station... brisk walking would be fastest. Especially in the morning when the CBR South station might have a back up from everyone at CBR, Pop, and AoA heading over to DHS.

After walking the whole way, the next best thing would be walking to the Swolphin pier and taking the ferry.

But, in the end, I wouldn't think any of the choices would be significantly faster than the others discounting 'rush hours'.
 
RustySpork

RustySpork

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flynnibus said:
One is a fixed system.. the other is not. You're just making yourself look bad.
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Whatever. :rolleyes:

You guys are the experts, anyone who has an opinion or an idea that isn't like yours "looks bad". :arghh: We can't have conversations here, only attacks because you know more than everyone else on earth because you say so. :arghh:

:rolleyes:
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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RustySpork said:
Whatever. :rolleyes:

You guys are the experts, anyone who has an opinion or an idea that isn't like yours "looks bad". :arghh: We can't have conversations here, only attacks because you know more than everyone else on earth because you say so. :arghh:

:rolleyes:
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But saying a Ferris wheel gondola is the same thing as a cable gondola is not a matter of opinion, there are clear technical differences.
 
RustySpork

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
danlb_2000 said:
But saying a Ferris wheel gondola is the same thing as a cable gondola is not a matter of opinion, there are clear technical differences.
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Definitely, I completely agree. There are similarities though that could apply to either models. We shouldn't automatically discard and belittle conversation about it just because one's fixed and one is not fixed.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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The sad thing is... probably a hundred pages of this thread could be wiped out by a sophomore engineer just doing the napkin energy computations... calculating the drain per leg... the voltage and current needed to restore that amount of energy in the amount of time in the station and ball park estimate the weight of the system. It's simple conservation of energy... durations.. and usual A/C loads.

All which means, an ACTUAL designer would do this and make the real determination on the feasibility in no time at all. I started letting other people do the math for me almost 20 years ago.. and you all don't pay me enough to pickup a pencil.

And contrary to some people's beliefs... Orlando is not the extreme climate in the grand scheme of things. Less we forget... Orlando isn't even subtropics... Places like HK, Rio, etc are.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

Premium Member
RustySpork said:
Definitely, I completely agree. There are similarities though that could apply to either models. We shouldn't automatically discard and belittle conversation about it just because one's fixed and one is not fixed.
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Except the very idea of 'self-contained' vs 'fixed and attached' are pretty much the key design constraints in this discussion. You're comparing apples and chicken and saying... well, they both are food right??
 

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