New Frozen Show replacing Aladdin at DCA

[Deleted member 107043]

Maybe if we didn't already have a Frozen show in the same park...

Frozen fatigue is causing some negative reactions here to an IP that won't reach its global exhaustion point for years to come. Each time you read or say Frozen substitute it for Star Wars, Harry Potter or any other pop phenomenon appropriate for inclusion at a Disney park. Doing that will help you understand why Frozen mania isn't likely to subside for years.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

It's a boring clip show.

Is there anything at DCA that you like?

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

The Chew Chew Train.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Well that explains everything!

 

[Californian Elitist]

What was so bad about World of Color?

All of "Let it Go" is in the new WoC, which is supposed to celebrate Walt Disney and Disneyland. Disney is out of control with Frozen.

 

[Californian Elitist]

The Chew Chew Train.

That's the first thing we're riding when we finally go together. Love that ride.

 

[Brer Panther]

Does Bob Iger even care about any of the other animated Disney movies besides Frozen?

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

source: internet

 

[DisneyManOne]

Does Bob Iger even care about any of the other animated Disney movies besides Frozen?

Apparently not. Which leads to another...

Reason Why Iger Is Worse Than Eisner

Reason #B

At least Eisner cared about all of Disney animated films. Yes, Eisner too was obsessed with merchandising, but let's face it--he had a wide wealth of hits to exploit: Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King, on and on and on. He also exploited some of the classics, too, if merchandise potential was high (i;e Snow White, Pinocchio, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Winnie the Pooh, etc.) And you could argue that Stitch's Great Escape--terrible as it is--was mainly brought in just to cash in on Lilo & Stitch's success (a gem in a time when Disney animation wasn't doing so well).

Iger started out good enough, giving balanced merchandising rights to Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Winnie the Pooh and Wreck-It Ralph. But then, Frozen came out, and, well...let's just say he turned into the next Lickboot.


Even given the massive success that was Big Hero 6, Iger still seems hell-bent on squeezing every last dollar out of Frozen.

And thus, we have another reason why Iger is worse than Eisner.

I thank you.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Reason #B

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So if you were CEO and your studio created the most successful animated film of all time and two years later the public was still buying up the merch and clamoring for more, you'd just ignore them and leave untold millions on the table?

You wouldn't be CEO for very long.

I'm against Frozen being shoehorned where it doesn't belong - Maelstrom, WOC Celebrate - but a Hyperion show is a perfectly valid way to showcase this property. This whole entitled nothing-should-ever-change-because-I-said-so attitude is absurd, but Disney has fostered it by letting a show like Aladdin run at least seven years longer than it should have.

The only show that should run forever is Fantasmic, and it could use some updating. Parades and stage shows need to be changed out regularly or else it becomes WDW.

 

[Brer Panther]

So if you were CEO and your studio created the most successful animated film of all time and two years later the public was still buying up the merch and clamoring for more, you'd just ignore them and leave untold millions on the table?

There's a difference between capitalizing on the success of a popular movie and shoehorning that popular movie everywhere in the parks while letting your other, also successful movies be forgotten. Case in point; Big Hero 6.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

There's a difference between capitalizing on the success of a popular movie and shoehorning that popular movie everywhere in the parks while letting your other, also successful movies be forgotten. Case in point; Big Hero 6.

Big Hero 6 was a great movie and pretty successful. But - it grossed less than half of Frozen's total worldwide and did not light the merch world on fire. It also has no songs, so it's not an easy fit for shows/parades.

It's not hard to see why Frozen is all over the parks and Big Hero 6 is not. The general public is still nuts over Frozen and that's not going to change.

Frozen has been shoved into some places it shouldn't have been, and I won't defend Frozenstrom or Let It Go in WOC-C. But again, Frozen in the Hyperion is a perfectly appropriate way to work Frozen into one of the parks. The Sing-A-Long booting MuppetVision was a far more egregious offense, and hopefully that will now be rectified.

Aladdin has run way too long. It's time has come and gone. Shows need to be refreshed. Frozen is perfect material for a lavish stage show. Guests will love it. Hopefully its run will be a reasonable length, unlike Aladdin, and the Hyperion can get a new tenant in 5-7 years.

 

[Brer Panther]

Big Hero 6 was a great movie and pretty successful. But - it grossed less than half of Frozen's total worldwide and did not light the merch world on fire.

So Disney only cares about movies that make Frozen amounts of money and merchandise sales. Here's hoping Zootopia makes that much, then.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I'm not a fan of theme park shows. I'd rather spend my time on attractions. That said, Aladdin was great- and if Frozen is half as good, I'll be happy. BUT I have only seen Aladdin three times since it opened in DCA. Like I said, I'm an attractions first kind of guy.

 

[brb1006]

Apparently not. Which leads to another...

Reason Why Iger Is Worse Than Eisner

Reason #B

At least Eisner cared about all of Disney animated films. Yes, Eisner too was obsessed with merchandising, but let's face it--he had a wide wealth of hits to exploit: Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King, on and on and on. He also exploited some of the classics, too, if merchandise potential was high (i;e Snow White, Pinocchio, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Winnie the Pooh, etc.) And you could argue that Stitch's Great Escape--terrible as it is--was mainly brought in just to cash in on Lilo & Stitch's success (a gem in a time when Disney animation wasn't doing so well).

Iger started out good enough, giving balanced merchandising rights to Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Winnie the Pooh and Wreck-It Ralph. But then, Frozen came out, and, well...let's just say he turned into the next Lickboot.


Even given the massive success that was Big Hero 6, Iger still seems hell-bent on squeezing every last dollar out of Frozen.

And thus, we have another reason why Iger is worse than Eisner.

I thank you.

I agree on you're statement about Eisner caring about past Disney animated films.

 

[brb1006]

Does Bob Iger even care about any of the other animated Disney movies besides Frozen?

I know right, ever since more and more Frozen merchandise come out each year since 2013. You hardly see Disney bring up any of the past animated films including some obscure ones.

 

[TP2000]

Big Hero 6 was a great movie and pretty successful. But - it grossed less than half of Frozen's total worldwide and did not light the merch world on fire. It also has no songs, so it's not an easy fit for shows/parades.

It's not hard to see why Frozen is all over the parks and Big Hero 6 is not. The general public is still nuts over Frozen and that's not going to change..

I went to Target this afternoon and found myself drawn into the Toy Department by a roaring Chewbacca display on the end of the aisle. Star Wars had two aisles all to itself, but was pretty much picked over with lots of empty Star Wars branded shelves. Marvel had a presence, Disney princesses had a presence with lots of Frozen stuff, then there was a smattering of Pixar and lesser cartoon brands, Harry Potter, and LEGOs. I didn't see a Big Hero 6 anything.

They were also setting up their Halloween section in the back of the store. Star Wars had a HUGE presence there too with two entire Halloween aisles, with more toys and lots of Star Wars costumes and accessories. Suddenly it's 1977 all over again.

I did not see anything for Avatar, but that's a thread for the WDW section.

Aladdin has run way too long. It's time has come and gone. Shows need to be refreshed. Frozen is perfect material for a lavish stage show. Guests will love it. Hopefully its run will be a reasonable length, unlike Aladdin, and the Hyperion can get a new tenant in 5-7 years.

Ain't that the truth! I can only imagine how horrified the Internet would have been back in January, 2003 if Cynthia Harriss had stepped onto the stage of the Hyperion Theatre on Aladdin's opening night wearing a sparkly pantsuit and declared "This show is fabulous! And a bunch of us were talking in a secret TDA conference room last week and we've decided to let it run here until the year 2016!"

I would go one step further than your timetable and hope the Hyperion Theatre will now get a new tenant every 4 to 5 years, roughly double the length of time stage shows traditionally ran in Disneyland's Fantasyland Theater. But there's no reason to keep a show in that DCA venue for another 13 years like Aladdin got; January, 2003 to January, 2016.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

There's a difference between capitalizing on the success of a popular movie and shoehorning that popular movie everywhere in the parks while letting your other, also successful movies be forgotten. Case in point; Big Hero 6.

Irrelevant comparison. Big Hero Six's domestic box office was $605,000,000 global*. Frozen's was $1,274,219,009 making it the 5th biggest film in history**. I won't even bother comparing merchandise sales.

Some people may not love the Frozen franchise, but there's no denying its popularity and staying power. I completely dislike how IPs have taken over the parks, but Disney would be stupid not to milk this one for all it's worth.

*source: Deadline Hollywood
**source: Box Office Mojo

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Googling Star Wars/Frozen universe-destroying crossover potentials and apparently, a lot of Elsa cosplayers like to strip down to Leia's slave outfit.

 

[croboy82]

I'm very sad to see Aladdin go but it lasted really long. It's also frustrating cause some people said that the Broadway show is not as good

But change is good, it's just that I only like the first half of Frozen. After "Let it go" the movie falls appart for me. I will still check out the show cause it may be better.

It's just sad as a 80's 90's Disney fan many movies don't get the attention I would love to.