New EPCOT entrance system finally open!

Horizonstta

Horizonstta

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trr1 said:
are they still checking bags? if so is it before or after the new entrance systems :confused:
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Yes, you go through the same bag check first. My ticket didn't read, so I had to move into a different line. But when it works, you place the ticket up to the reader, insert your finger for the scan, and walk in. It should move the line much quicker in the future.
 
weretiger155

weretiger155

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Testtrack321 said:
Seems like there's a glut of CMs right now since they're just starting the system up (like how there used to be like 20 CMs to run FastPass at AK). I think this will use the same about of CMs as they currently use, just get the guests in faster and easier.
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I'm sure they won't use more CM's, if anything I have a feeling they will decrease the CM's at the entrance if they end up implementing this or just re distribute the Cm's they already have.
 
Prototype82

Prototype82

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As much as I love the mouse, I think the scanner should have been...I don't know...more Epcot looking? But it makes sense if they're going to be used throughout the entire resort. The extra expense of designing one for one park wouldn't make sense. These are pretty cool!
 
SyracuseOrange

SyracuseOrange

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weretiger155 said:
I'm sure they won't use more CM's, if anything I have a feeling they will decrease the CM's at the entrance if they end up implementing this or just re distribute the Cm's they already have.
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My guess is less CMs, but I'm seeing some people on Twitter discussing a valid point. If it's very crowded, couldn't you slip through this system quite easily?
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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Testtrack321 said:
I'm interested in knowing what sort of security systems they have in place for this. What would prevent an off site place to collect the signal from cards and steal it? Sure you have to get really close, but it's still possible.
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Probably none. I mean you would have to be within inches of a card to take this info. Then you would have to have the equipment to add this info to another card. And there are a ton of other steps in this process, not too mention that you still have to use a biometric sensor. Unless they cut off your finger, you're good. It would be far too much hassle for this process for someone to bother going through. Will it be tried anyway? Maybe. But the occurrence will be very far and few between.

Jdlay said:
RFID does not have to contain personal data. I don't have personal information on how these work, but do understand RFID in general.. So i suspect all Disney has done is place the ticket identifier on the chip. The turnstile would communicate back to the ticketing system to validate the ticket along with the biometric scan (captured). If someone read the ticket, all they would get is your ticket identifier and nothing about you. ...

.....Plus it opens the door to some cool interactive uses in the parks.
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The RFID will only store a set length digit sequence that is then checked against the master database at each swipe to make sure it matches "you". No personal info is stored on these chips.

Prototype82 said:
As much as I love the mouse, I think the scanner should have been...I don't know...more Epcot looking? But it makes sense if they're going to be used throughout the entire resort. The extra expense of designing one for one park wouldn't make sense. These are pretty cool!
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They'll likely change the final design (at least I hope they do) for each park.


Now, let's bring on the bracelets!! :sohappy::sohappy:
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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SyracuseOrange said:
My guess is less CMs, but I'm seeing some people on Twitter discussing a valid point. If it's very crowded, couldn't you slip through this system quite easily?
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There will likely be a "person sensor" that will register a human in the corral and light red if it is not scanned right. It the entrances I can't see them getting rid of the CM's, or turnstiles for that matter. It is much easier to control who's coming in correctly and who's sneaking in.
 
Passport

Passport

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I was just there and stuck behind a large family who didn't know what to do. I scanned my ticket, mickey turned green so I had to walk around the group to get in. How do any of the cm's know I scanned my ticket? It is all open with no way to know who has a valid ticket. It was faster though.
 
G00fyDad

G00fyDad

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Passport said:
I was just there and stuck behind a large family who didn't know what to do. I scanned my ticket, mickey turned green so I had to walk around the group to get in. How do any of the cm's know I scanned my ticket? It is all open with no way to know who has a valid ticket. It was faster though.
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There was no CM at that spot watching? If that is the case then no, I can't see this being very effective.
 
Hakunamatata

Hakunamatata

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I would guess that there is an element of video surveillance going on as well. Very well may be the case that they have a group of CMs poised to confront someone who is not scanning and trying to enter the park. :shrug:
 
saxamoophone

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hakunamatata said:
I would guess that there is an element of video surveillance going on as well. Very well may be the case that they have a group of CMs poised to confront someone who is not scanning and trying to enter the park. :shrug:
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Exactly correct.

Expect a cast member with a iPad showing a video feed that tracks humans, and red boxes or green boxes for their entry status.

It's pretty easy to do these days (with enough engineers)..

Very cool.
 
SyracuseOrange

SyracuseOrange

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saxamoophone said:
Exactly correct.

Expect a cast member with a iPad showing a video feed that tracks humans, and red boxes or green boxes for their entry status.

It's pretty easy to do these days (with enough engineers)..

Very cool.
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Silly me. I forgot that there are video cameras EVERYWHERE in WDW. Thanks, this new system makes more sense now.
 
fillerup

fillerup

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Horizonstta said:
Yes, you go through the same bag check first. My ticket didn't read, so I had to move into a different line. But when it works, you place the ticket up to the reader, insert your finger for the scan, and walk in. It should move the line much quicker in the future.
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Would you mind elaborating? Your entry was denied under the new system so you had to move to a line with a turnstile?

If I got that correctly, I hope this isn't the procedure after the new system is fully implemented.

And do you know why your ticket didn't read? Was it lacking the chip or it simply didn't work?

My ticket currently doesn't read under the old system about half the time, requiring the CM to do an override. I'm not going to be thrilled if I have to move to a different line.
 
robbalvey

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weretiger155 said:
Has anyone seen the new entrance systems being tested at EPCOT today?

Edit: Here are some photos I found,
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These are not my photos.
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Nope. They aren't. They are mine. I don't mind you re-posting them, but some credit would have been nice. The full report can be found here: http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61014
 
tecowdw

tecowdw

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So does this mean the test they had in March was determined to not be the best option? The RFID system seems a complete 180 from that prior "turnstile-less" entry.
 

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