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New DVC Resales Restrictions
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rfc0001
Active Member
An AP breaks even with 2 trips in one year, regardless of length (e.g. it's cheaper than two 3-Day MYW tickets but more expensive than one 10-day MYW).
Note, the difference in price between a DVC Gold AP and non-DVC AP are $850 for family of 4, so this benefit would add up (enough that you could buy 25 add-on points direct to get the discount and recoup the difference in price over resale after 2 years).
DVC Member prices are:
Well, I guess some more math.
Regular price for a Platinum Pass is $749. Premium Platinum (which adds water parks) is $829.
DVC price for a Platinum Pass is $649. Premium Platinum Pass is $729.
We save $100 per pass, or in your case, $400. There is no longer a different price for children for the annual passes. It's all one price regardless, and I can see the regular park tickets going that route very soon.
The option that we choose is called a Gold Pass and is available only to Florida residents and DVC members (which the new rules kill that for NEW resale buyers). It is $549, but has 2 weeks of blackout dates around Easter, and the last 2 weeks of December. We never go during those times anyway, so it was a no-brainer to save the $100 off the regular Platinum Pass rate.
So if you went that route, you are talking a savings of $200 each or $800 for your family for the Gold Pass. So then it would take 10 years to save $8,000. It works for us because we also buy the TiW to save 20% on our TS meals and at lounges and bars. Even with the $150 price tag, we save literally hundreds of dollars over the life of the card. How you eat, drink, and tour could vastly change how much you might save.
rfc0001
Active Member
$800 plus tax, so over $850 savings for Gold DVC AP vs. Platinum AP (which is your only option for non-DVC). You don't need to recoup $8000 -- just the difference in price of direct vs. resale for 100 point minimum contract direct (for first time buyers) or 25 point contract (for existing DVC members who previously bought resale). The difference in price of a 25 point contract can be recouped after just 2 years just on AP savings alone.Well, I guess some more math.
Regular price for a Platinum Pass is $749. Premium Platinum (which adds water parks) is $829.
DVC price for a Platinum Pass is $649. Premium Platinum Pass is $729.
We save $100 per pass, or in your case, $400. There is no longer a different price for children for the annual passes. It's all one price regardless, and I can see the regular park tickets going that route very soon.
The option that we choose is called a Gold Pass and is available only to Florida residents and DVC members (which the new rules kill that for NEW resale buyers). It is $549, but has 2 weeks of blackout dates around Easter, and the last 2 weeks of December. We never go during those times anyway, so it was a no-brainer to save the $100 off the regular Platinum Pass rate.
So if you went that route, you are talking a savings of $200 each or $800 for your family for the Gold Pass. So then it would take 10 years to save $8,000. It works for us because we also buy the TiW to save 20% on our TS meals and at lounges and bars. Even with the $150 price tag, we save literally hundreds of dollars over the life of the card. How you eat, drink, and tour could vastly change how much you might save.
Mailer from DVC today specifically mentions the DVC lounge in Imagination opening later this year.
PhilharMagician
Well-Known Member
Still trying to figure out what and where these structural problems came from. Just doesn't sound right that a second floor above ride and guest areas that cannot support a CM walking on not would justify the closure of the entire pavilion to repair. Curious on what was wrong.
lostpro9het
Well-Known Member
Had a thought today. It's my understanding that the new resales won't be allowed to take advantage of special events like the Merry Mixer and Beach Bash. Doesn't funding for these events come from annual dues? If so, won't the new resale folks be paying into that same pool to fund the events they are being excluded from?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
A good point. My guess is that TWDC pays for those events not DVC directly. For example, Top of the World lounge is not paid for by DVC dues, it has its own budget and is independent. I assume the EPCOT lounge will be the same. Things like discounted APs and merchandise are also not paid for by DVC dues. They are discounts TWDC offers owners as a perk for having bought in. I guess the special events must work the same way.
rfc0001
Active Member
In most businesses, the perks you get from buying something new are not transferrable.
For example, a nearby automotive dealer offers free oli changes for life. If I bought a new Ford from that dealer, I would get the benefit of free oil changes. But, if I desired to save some money and buy the same vehicle from an individual who isn't happy with the vehicle they bought from that dealer and sells it to me, I wouldn't get the free old changes.
Does that mean their are two classes of buyers? Sure, but we all accept this as reasonable.
Why shouldn't we think it's also reasonable for DVC to do the same thing? Buy direct from them and DVD gives you some perks, but buy resale to purchase from an individual who purchased direct from DVC and the benefits are not transferrable.
For example, a nearby automotive dealer offers free oli changes for life. If I bought a new Ford from that dealer, I would get the benefit of free oil changes. But, if I desired to save some money and buy the same vehicle from an individual who isn't happy with the vehicle they bought from that dealer and sells it to me, I wouldn't get the free old changes.
Does that mean their are two classes of buyers? Sure, but we all accept this as reasonable.
Why shouldn't we think it's also reasonable for DVC to do the same thing? Buy direct from them and DVD gives you some perks, but buy resale to purchase from an individual who purchased direct from DVC and the benefits are not transferrable.
Because they're entitled. Or think they are, anyway.
rfc0001
Active Member
Florida Statue actually requires a statement that Incidental Benefits are non-transferrable:
DVC's Membership Extras Acknowledgment and Disclosure Statement clearly state that Membership Extras are Incidental Benefits defined under Florida Statute and are non-transferrable:
Nice find.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I assume this was updated after this change because the benefits were transferred to resale buyers until this change.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
Two things that couldn't be any different.
1. Car dealerships are independently owned. The free oil changes are not a Ford sponsored program.
2. The dealership gets zero value from giving perks to non customers. Disney gets tremendous value from repeat visitors regardless of where they purchased their points.
These things are nowhere near the same. Add in the fact that Dis used to treat resale and direct buy the same, and it stinks.
They are trying to milk the same cows too many times. They want to...
A. Force more direct buy.
B. Extract a teeny tiny bit more money out of those that choose resale.
FWIW, I'm direct buy and I think this sucks. I can't think of a single way this benefits me. Taking things away from others doesn't give me any added enjoyment.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
This^^^^ I can't understand why anyone is trying to justify this or thinks this is remotely good except maybe DVC sales reps. Now if they offered more perks to existing members to make up for the decrease in perks for new resale members I'd be on board
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
Perhaps this benefits direct purchasers for events with limited availability?This^^^^ I can't understand why anyone is trying to justify this or thinks this is remotely good except maybe DVC sales reps. Now if they offered more perks to existing members to make up for the decrease in perks for new resale members I'd be on board
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Possibly. I'm not a local so most of those events don't apply to me unless I happen to be at WDW when they happen which hasn't been the case yet since I've been an owner.