No, this is not what I meant. The CMs on the DAS video (because this will be the only way to get DAS) can explain that the CMs under the blue umbrellas can't do diddly to change anything agreed upon during the chat. From what I've read, people now have to digitally sign an agreement to abide by what is discussed.
Even more pitiful that a billion dollar company causes that to take place.
No - wholeheartedly disagree here. Yelling at cast members is not OK, regardless of frustration level. The hell we've experienced with medical insurance is on a whole other level, and I still don't yell at the entry level people that man the dept to lodge the complaint. Cry? maybe, as frustration needs to go somewhere sometimes. But yelling isn't OK.
Yup this should be obvious. Disney is a park all ages and abilities can enjoy. Can’t say that for like any other amusement park.
Exactly, like why apply for a pass at a Six flags if the rides aren’t generally accessible. I know our Six Flags 85% of the rides are extremely thrilling, which can be both dangerous and generally not easy to use for people with disabilities. Disney has about 2 rides that are at that thrill level across the whole property.This is where the discussion goes awry because, unlike the discussion of DAS where @lentesta has provided specific data to show DAS use, we on this thread don't have such information for the other parks. I'm sure there are people on social media who use DAS at Disney and then don't elsewhere - not debating that exists. But a significant percentage of DAS users doing that? There's no data to make that claim.
Anecdotally -we've gone to other theme parks, and yep we use their disability services while there. One of them I would argue has a much more generous program than DAS - you get to enter at the exit, and you can stay on the ride for 2 consecutive rides without getting off if you so choose. It's a theme park designed for kids - mostly younger kids - but even during the summer, it's clearly not abused (and also no documentation required there).
A six flags, though, and universal Hollywood - we definitely won't return to the latter for some time, and aren't likely to seek out the former. In both instances because the rides aren't super accessible. We go to Disney because the rides - even many of the thrill rides - are so much more accessible. I would posit that the accessibility of the rides (or lack thereof) at places like 6 flags drives down the numbers of those with disabilities going more so than their documentation program. Having just done universal's documentstion process, to be very frank, it feels like theatre.
6 Flags requires that some documentation go through a third party, not that's given to themselves. Their system is also currently the subject of a lawsuit.
This is currently being challenged in court. The law very much does state that providing proof is to minimized and limited. There are a lot of violations out there and their continued existence is not evidence of compliance.
There was a period where people with legitimate needs were being denied accommodation because Disney put so much emphasis on autism that DAS was taken to be an accommodation for autism with everything else accommodated by the design of queues. That mistake very much seems to be in play again.
After reading all the posts about IBCCES I am getting a bit concerned. This is a company that has no privacy agreement like a Medical company would? Correct?
They have privacy terms on their main site as everyone does, but not on the accessibility card site: https://accessibilitycard.org/
…that means something totally different on the College Program…I’ve never heard the expression “ride pounder” let alone seen many such posts.
That's what I've wondered. If the return to line concept becomes a heavily used option, you will have lots of guests in line wondering why they continue to see people leaving or returning to the line and skipping ahead of them.
Your going to have to put this statement in the past tense very soon.
Are yelling and raising one’s voice really one and the same? Something like a surprised “What?!” would be said in a raised voice but not yelling, much less the verbal abuse that people are now claiming. Even crying is sometimes at a higher volume than one’s typical speaking voice.
Not only that but how are some people gonna be able to get out of a queue depending on the ride. I truly feel Disney is just hoping people deal with it and never ask to leave a line for whatever reason and praying for the best…
I hear what you're saying (and FTR my crying is quiet lol
), but yes they can be. Are they always? No one can speak for every human on the planet Are front line cast members always going to be in a place to differentiate? Likely, no.