Rumor New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Dd has a developmental disability,

Then you should be fine under the new system. Your daughter is exactly who DAS is intended for now, and, candidly, you should have a better DAS experience with shorter LL waits (and standby return times!) with other abuse weeded out.

 

[Ayla]

Have you considered:
1. Using a mobility device for your mother including in the queue’s?
2. Utilizing Disney’s “return to queue” service to make sure your mother can take frequent breaks;
3. Purchasing Genie+ for your mother and yourself to avoid lines; and
4. Utilizing Rider Switch so that your mother doesn’t have to wait in the longer lines?

It does sound like the new rules will preclude your mother if she doesn’t have a “developmental disability or similar,” however it also sounds like there are other reasonable accommodations that can be made to ensure that you and she still have an enjoyable experience.

5. Not going when it is 100+ degrees and high humidity?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Not sure how thats the case but okay. I dont go to Disney to people watch. There are plenty of things i can do otherwise if i need to kill some time. All of which involves spending money so Disney loves me lol

Well I don’t go to Disney to stand in line. There are plenty of other things I can do otherwise if I need to kill some time. All of which involves spending money so Disney loves me lol.

Do you see the problem?

 

[Angel Ariel]

Then you should be fine under the new system. Your daughter is exactly who DAS is intended for now, and, candidly, you should have a better DAS experience with shorter LL waits (and standby return times!) with other abuse weeded out.

As I said..the issue is the "shoulds" and the "might"...it's the unknown. It causes anxiety, as was the point of my post. I do think she should still qualify, but now it's a question mark vs a known quantity. It won't be a known quantity until our next trip, which we don't have planned yet.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

5. Not going when it is 100+ degrees and high humidity?

I mean this is advice that everyone should follow. Friends don’t let friends go to Orlando in July, August, and the beginning of September.

 

[DryerLintFan]

They can if they want to. I did 10 attractions at DHS and that was with a long sit down lunch at Brown Derby. Could have easily gotten in Rise if I had counter service.

Honestly I wasn’t aware there were 10 attractions there to do!! jk

 

[Splash4eva]

Have you considered:
1. Using a mobility device for your mother including in the queue’s?
2. Utilizing Disney’s “return to queue” service to make sure your mother can take frequent breaks;
3. Purchasing Genie+ for your mother and yourself to avoid lines; and
4. Utilizing Rider Switch so that your mother doesn’t have to wait in the longer lines?

It does sound like the new rules will preclude your mother if she doesn’t have a “developmental disability or similar,” however it also sounds like there are other reasonable accommodations that can be made to ensure that you and she still have an enjoyable experience.

Time will tell. Im going in June & honestly not sure how ill proceed. My Mom sadly most likely will not come if there is any uncertainty

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

As I said..the issue is the "shoulds" and the "might"...it's the unknown. It causes anxiety, as was the point of my post. I do think she should still qualify, but now it's a question mark vs a known quantity. It won't be a known quantity until our next trip, which we don't have planned yet.

I really don’t think it should be a question mark and I think this falls into the category of people who keep assuming the worst of Disney despite Disney having a really good track record of being extremely disability friendly. I understand the anxiety, but I really think you’re going to be fine. Like, if I gambled, I’d wager you $100 at pretty good odds that you will be approved. Their website literally carves out developmental disabilities, which is what your daughter suffers from. This does not appear to be targeted at (especially children) with developmental disabilities, nor should it be.

 

[Splash4eva]

Then being upset about these changes is even more useless?

Its a forum / thread we are all having discussions. I didnt know what im doing is against rules

 

[DryerLintFan]

5. Not going when it is 100+ degrees and high humidity?

6) working with your medical team to plan for and try to mitigate the possibility of a flare up

 

[Disstevefan1]

Disney’s not pulling the trigger on this unless it’s someone offering a disability tour service. This verbiage is there to try to scare abusers away.

Makes sense. The more regular folks they can scare away, the more Genie+ they can sell.

In my opinion, once this is fully in place, there will be a short period of time where all wait times (LL and standby) will be lower because there wont be all the DAS folks slowing the lighting lane and thereby slowing the standby.

BUT THEN, Disney will increase the number of Genie+ they sell daily and we will be RIGHT where we were before the DAS change as far as wait times for both LL and standby, but the difference is Disney will be selling more Genie+ and making more money!

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Time will tell. Im going in June & honestly not sure how I’ll proceed. My Mom sadly most likely will not come if there is any uncertainty

I just did WDW with my wife’s Aunt and Uncle. My uncle is pretty disabled and likely would have qualified for DAS. He can barely walk, can’t stand for long periods of time, has breathing issues, can’t handle the sun or the heat, etc. It was very slow going but we did just fine with Genie+ and strategically doing attractions close together (in Epcot we did the seas, then every attraction in the land pavilion, then he took a break and hung out in the land pavilion while we went on figment).

 

[DryerLintFan]

As I said..the issue is the "shoulds" and the "might"...it's the unknown. It causes anxiety, as was the point of my post. I do think she should still qualify, but now it's a question mark vs a known quantity. It won't be a known quantity until our next trip, which we don't have planned yet.

Like, only 30 days before, too. Which is even more difficult on guests who have the additional planning that comes with disability

 

[lazyboy97o]

NO ONE is saying that there aren't people who need DAS. We're friends with a family that used the GAC until queues could accommodate a power chair (ventilator-dependent 90% of the time), so they likely used DAS at some point after it was introduced. It's the people who abuse the system who are being called into question.

For someone who says they use DAS, you're rather defensive about it being abused. If I didn't know better, you sound like someone at risk of losing their free lunch.

The problem is that nobody has really proposed a solid method of identifying abuse. Instead, the discussed solutions are consistently to limit accommodations and institute more barriers to access; to make things more miserable for all users in order to drive down use and even end visitation.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Again myself and my mom CANT stand in line

This isn’t about standing in line. You complained about being bored sitting around and people watching, because you “don’t go to Disney to people watch.”

 

[HauntedPirate]

The problem is that nobody has really proposed a solid method of identifying abuse. Instead, the discussed solutions are consistently to limit accommodations and institute more barriers to access; to make things more miserable for all users in order to drive down use and even end visitation.

Abusers are why we can’t have nice things.

 

[DryerLintFan]

I just did WDW with my wife’s Aunt and Uncle. My uncle is pretty disabled and likely would have qualified for DAS. He can barely walk, can’t stand for long periods of time, has breathing issues, can’t handle the sun or the heat, etc. It was very slow going but we did just fine with Genie+ and strategically doing attractions close together (in Epcot we did the seas, then every attraction in the land pavilion, then he took a break and hung out in the land pavilion while we went on figment).

This is what we do too. One chunk of park at a time. Before i became disabled we’d zigzag all over for fastpasses. But now we’re slower and i need break’s and i don’t have any ability to zigzag the parks.

Honestly the slower we go the more fun we seem to have on the trips. I do miss the ability to zigzag though.

 

[Splash4eva]

I just did WDW with my wife’s Aunt and Uncle. My uncle is pretty disabled and likely would have qualified for DAS. He can barely walk, can’t stand for long periods of time, has breathing issues, can’t handle the sun or the heat, etc. It was very slow going but we did just fine with Genie+ and strategically doing attractions close together (in Epcot we did the seas, then every attraction in the land pavilion, then he took a break and hung out in the land pavilion while we went on figment).

Thats fine. Good for you. If i need to go elsewhere for Fathers day weekend ill find something. Again this is a discussion board and im doing just that. Im not going on a vacation and giving someone my money with an uncertainty on how my trip will be.

 

[DryerLintFan]

The problem is that nobody has really proposed a solid method of identifying abuse. Instead, the discussed solutions are consistently to limit accommodations and institute more barriers to access; to make things more miserable for all users in order to drive down use and even end visitation.

Okay. But NONE OF US WITH FOR DISNEY like of course we can’t solve the problem. It’s not our field of expertise and we’re don’t have all the facts.

 

[DryerLintFan]

This isn’t about standing in line. You complained about being bored sitting around and people watching, because you “don’t go to Disney to people watch.”

People watching at Disney is wildly entertaining, imo. And the kids are so darn cute