That's 100% fair.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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That's 100% fair.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
this kinda reminds me of the chips in the cups at the soda machines. It costs just as much for the cups and technology as they were losing on some syrup, makes extra work for the CM’s to explain and troubleshoot the system, and annoys the guests paying.
In the end… it’s some coke syrup, just let it go.
If there is obvious abuse, stop it, but don’t make it more difficult for the guests that really need it.
In the end… it’s some coke syrup, just let it go.
If there is obvious abuse, stop it, but don’t make it more difficult for the guests that really need it.
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I just don’t think the average guest is getting 10 attractions in a day in (or anything close to that) unless we are counting “saw a parade,” “saw a cavalcade,” “waived to Mickey standing in the train station” as an attraction.
seabreezept813
Well-Known Member
A window between being able to book DAS makes sense. Some of what is offered doesn’t even work if you truly need DAS. Like the pre books-most of the time you can’t make that exact window. And a gap between booking DAS like say you can book one every hour or 2 would probably still work efficiently for true DAS users who need bathroom, food, stimulation breaks. Those types of changes would feel less like punishing people who can benefit from DAS, than just ignoring or minimizing disabilities/heath changes.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Are you admitting you’re one of the exhibit A’s as to why they are making the changes?
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
Disney’s not pulling the trigger on this unless it’s someone offering a disability tour service. This verbiage is there to try to scare abusers away.
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
Not at all if they put even a little planning and timed their prebooks so that they did the prebooks during the countdown for ROTR from the moment they scanned into the park. Maybe they also stopped and watched a show.
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
I know that Disney knows that it’s abuse because Disney is changing it. That’s good enough for me.
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Again i am literally on record stating Disney should require proof if they really wanted to eliminate this problem. My Mom & Myself both have documentation if you really need to know… when GA put this into effect the 1st time going i was given access then had to sign up and was approved by that 3rd party. So keep making assumptions.
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
Sorry to snip your post, just wanted to make it clear what I was referencing.
This is the part that I think is going unsaid much of this back and forth, but I think it’s such a slippery slope. Throughout this, I keep thinking about frequency of visits. While we’re here on this board (where many of us are WDW regulars and have experienced everything they have to offer that interests us multiple times) squabbling about how many attractions we should be able to access in a day, there are people who due to issues sometimes beyond their control (like finances) might have a day or two at WDW ever in their lifetimes. We are all undoubtedly experiencing more with our multiple days there over the course of multiple vacations.
There are so many people out there who deserve good and advantages. That’s why I think this loses focus when it goes beyond access of a single attraction.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Not for years
That’s didn’t mean it’s technically impossible
We saw all the claims of getting 14 fastpasses a day…
But at what cost?
I don’t tolerate that many headaches/work WHEN IM WORKING
The last 2 systems don’t allow enough availability to get much.
The best way was always OG fastpass for 2 or so headliners and standbys around them.
Simpler, better days
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
You complained that you didn’t want to have to sit and people watch while waiting for your DAS return time because that’s “boring.” This poster had a perfectly valid response to you.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
If you and your mom have documentation, then why are you upset over these changes being made?
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Not sure how thats the case but okay. I dont go to Disney to people watch. There are plenty of things i can do otherwise if i need to kill some time. All of which involves spending money so Disney loves me lol
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
I’m certainly not defending how long Disney took to act here or how dumb they were for not realizing how quickly and seriously this would be abused.
TeriofTerror
Well-Known Member
1. Some people legitimately need DAS.
2. *SOME* of those people unfairly game the system.
3. Even legitimate use of the system can negatively impact other guests on occasion, such as large parties tagging along with the DAS guest.
4. Some people who don't need DAS get it anyway because they are lying, entitled jerks who think the rules shouldn't apply to them.
Disney realizes group one and non DAS-guests are being negatively impacted by groups 2-4 and feel a change is needed, both for the benefit of the non-cheating guests and Disney's bottom line. Disney is a company and their job is to make money; I can't fault them for that. Therefore, Disney is going to try some changes to see if they help. It's in Disney's best interest to try to provide the best experience possible for all guests, so maybe we can wait to see:
A. If anyone with legitimate issues suffers due to the new policies, and
B. If the changes improve the overall situation -
before getting our knickers in a royal twist?
2. *SOME* of those people unfairly game the system.
3. Even legitimate use of the system can negatively impact other guests on occasion, such as large parties tagging along with the DAS guest.
4. Some people who don't need DAS get it anyway because they are lying, entitled jerks who think the rules shouldn't apply to them.
Disney realizes group one and non DAS-guests are being negatively impacted by groups 2-4 and feel a change is needed, both for the benefit of the non-cheating guests and Disney's bottom line. Disney is a company and their job is to make money; I can't fault them for that. Therefore, Disney is going to try some changes to see if they help. It's in Disney's best interest to try to provide the best experience possible for all guests, so maybe we can wait to see:
A. If anyone with legitimate issues suffers due to the new policies, and
B. If the changes improve the overall situation -
before getting our knickers in a royal twist?
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
Documentation isagain not being asked for so having it is useless…
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
They can if they want to. I did 10 attractions at DHS and that was with a long sit down lunch at Brown Derby. Could have easily gotten in Rise if I had counter service.
Fido Chuckwagon
Well-Known Member
Have you considered:
1. Using a mobility device for your mother including in the queue’s?
2. Utilizing Disney’s “return to queue” service to make sure your mother can take frequent breaks;
3. Purchasing Genie+ for your mother and yourself to avoid lines; and
4. Utilizing Rider Switch so that your mother doesn’t have to wait in the longer lines?
It does sound like the new rules will preclude your mother if she doesn’t have a “developmental disability or similar,” however it also sounds like there are other reasonable accommodations that can be made to ensure that you and she still have an enjoyable experience.
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Then being upset about these changes is even more useless?
