New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[TeriofTerror]

I understand what you are saying but... let's say all they do is use the restroom. How long does that take the average person? Multiply that by say 3 that is how long it could potentially take someone needing DAS.

Fun fact: Researchers have found that all mammals that weigh more than six-and-a-half pounds or so take about the same time to pee: 21 seconds, plus or minus 13 seconds. (I know this isn't the point you're making; I just thought it was a fun piece of information.)

 

[GhostHost1000]

Fun fact: Researchers have found that all mammals that weigh more than six-and-a-half pounds or so take about the same time to pee: 21 seconds, plus or minus 13 seconds. (I know this isn't the point you're making; I just thought it was a fun piece of information.)

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Why is it a problem? The DAS guest still gets to ride with a family member or friend and 2 more members of their party and have those people available as caregivers during their wait, if needed. Very few rides can accommodate more than that in a ride vehicle anyway. The idea behind allowing up to 4 people to get a return time is so that the DAS user has caregivers with them and isn't just left alone while they wait for their return time and the exception for immediate family is to prwvent splitting up parents and their kids. Why should there be an exception for a group of 6+ friends? It just invites abuse like I described in my previous post.

I'm not sure what you're arguing against.

I'm just saying there should be consistency in how the rules are applied.

If DAS is limited to 2 people or 4 people, then that's the rule. You can't make an exception for "family" but not other groups.

 

[DryerLintFan]

I understand what you are saying but... let's say all they do is use the restroom. How long does that take the average person? Multiply that by say 3 that is how long it could potentially take someone needing DAS.

Okay, let’s say the average person (female) takes 4 minutes in the restroom (might be a line, wrestling with clothing/bags, washing hands, trying to get the stupid paper towel thing to work). So that’s 12 in your example but let’s just say 10 minutes for DAS.

On that 60 minute wait, that guest is still only waiting 25 minutes.

Mind you I’m not saying i think there’s anything wrong with this. But I’m saying I get why it’s an advantage. Even if all you can do is people watch, you’re doing it for a lot less time than the standby guest.

Not to mention this is the first ride of the day. The uberDAS user or whatever we’re calling them, can then stack rides easily afterward

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

If DAS is limited to 2 people or 4 people, then that's the rule. You can't make an exception for "family" but not other groups.

There needs to be some ability to customize this program - a family group of 5 or 6 should be accommodated - a group of friends - maybe not.

 

[DryerLintFan]

I'm not sure what you're arguing against.

I'm just saying there should be consistency in how the rules are applied.

If DAS is limited to 2 people or 4 people, then that's the rule. You can't make an exception for "family" but not other groups.

Oooooooooh!!! You’re coming at it from the other angle. I had totally forgotten someone proposed an exception for larger groups if they are family

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

On the splits Is it’s meant for access…not “convenience”

A party of 12 split up into a 4/8 DAS vs non split provides access…but not convenience

I can see that being argued a lot in the park for a variety of excuses

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oooooooooh!!! You’re coming at it from the other angle. I had totally forgotten someone proposed an exception for larger groups if they are family

It’s gonna be demanded…daily

And they’ll give in

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

There'd be less anxiety if I didn't need to purchase expensive non-refundable tickets in order to even apply for the DAS

Disney is extraordinarily good at not enforcing their no refund policies (at worst you might need to escalate to a supervisor). I’m pretty confident you’d get your money back if you were denied DAS and explained that meant you couldn’t go so you wanted a refund.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disney is extraordinarily good at not enforcing their no refund policies (at worst you might need to escalate to a supervisor). I’m pretty confident you’d get your money back if you were denied DAS and explained that meant you couldn’t go so you wanted a refund.

If it does what they want…I have no doubt there will be a standing back door out of the policy

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

If it does what they want…I have no doubt there will be a standing back door out of the policy

I am also confident that the number of people who will actually cancel their trips will be extremely small to nonexistent, including the people in this thread who insist they will never go to Disney again. The other accommodations will work fine for them and people will still want their Disney fix, so they’ll go and they’ll purchase Genie+.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Again i am literally on record stating Disney should require proof if they really wanted to eliminate this problem. My Mom & Myself both have documentation if you really need to know… when GA put this into effect the 1st time going i was given access then had to sign up and was approved by that 3rd party. So keep making assumptions.

Then what we all want is a more level playing field while preserving your DAS access. There should be no issue there

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I am also confident that the number of people who will actually cancel their trips will be extremely small to nonexistent, including the people in this thread who insist they will never go to Disney again. The other accommodations will work fine for them and people will still want their Disney fix, so they’ll go and they’ll purchase Genie+.

Uh huh…the rats know who will eat the cheese

When they use their brains

 

[Splash4eva]

Then what we all want is a more level playing field while preserving your DAS access. There should be no issue there

I 100% agree. Like i said & im on record saying what i would have done even before Disney made announcements. All of which again still serves its purpose and helps ease some pain for Disney as well.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I 100% agree. Like i said & im on record saying what i would have done even before Disney made announcements. All of which again still serves its purpose and helps ease some pain for Disney as well.

There’s gonna be more…This is legal approved maneuvering so far

 

[sedati]

All D & E Ticket attractions should have an in-theme lounge type area as one of it's queue options. Air-conditioned with restroom facilities, noise cancelling headphones, and even themed activities that act as a compliment to any story-elements experienced in queue. Each entrant would be given either a timed number based on when they entered in line with the standard wait time, or wait for a split-party to retrieve them when they've navigated through.

This isn't a 100% fix, nor is it a new or original concept, but one that is repeatedly shot down on these forums.

 

[DryerLintFan]

All D & E Ticket attractions should have an in-theme lounge type area as one of it's queue options. Air-conditioned with restroom facilities, noise cancelling headphones, and even themed activities that act as a compliment to any story-elements experienced in queue. Each entrant would be given either a timed number based on when they entered in line with the standard wait time, or wait for a split-party to retrieve them when they've navigated through.

This isn't a 100% fix, nor is it a new or original concept, but one that is repeatedly shot down on these forums.

Like a really long pre show.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

There needs to be some ability to customize this program - a family group of 5 or 6 should be accommodated - a group of friends - maybe not.

Why?

What if someone is estranged from their biological family and goes with a very close group of friends?

Saying one group is valid compared to other due to being blood relations is an arbitrary decision that would arguably be discriminatory.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

All D & E Ticket attractions should have an in-theme lounge type area as one of it's queue options. Air-conditioned with restroom facilities, noise cancelling headphones, and even themed activities that act as a compliment to any story-elements experienced in queue. Each entrant would be given either a timed number based on when they entered in line with the standard wait time, or wait for a split-party to retrieve them when they've navigated through.

This isn't a 100% fix, nor is it a new or original concept, but one that is repeatedly shot down on these forums.

See… dumbos circus tent!

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I'm not sure what you're arguing against.

I'm just saying there should be consistency in how the rules are applied.

If DAS is limited to 2 people or 4 people, then that's the rule. You can't make an exception for "family" but not other groups.

I explained that the point of the exception is to avoid separating parents from their children if there are 3+ children or a single parent with 4+ kids. There's no reasonable argument for extending that courtesy to a group of friends (and the law only requires reasonable accommodations), so that's why they can make an exception for immediate family (which means no aunts, uncles, longtime family friends who the kids call "aunt" or "uncle", etc.). I honestly don't see why that's a problem. Small children require supervision in line and on rides (and in some cases, the rides require an adult sit in the ride vehicle in a specific seat relative to the child/children). Friends - whether they are adults or unsupervised teens - don't have the same requirements.