New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[StarWarsGirl]

This is misleading. Genie+ has a 120 minute window to book another selection while still holding on to the first. If you use your first selection, you can book another one immediately. DAS only allows you to hold one selection at a time. You can't make a new one until you use the first.

Example: you book Slinky dog at 7AM and get a 12 PM return time. Park opens at 9, you arrive at 11. At 11, you get a second LL for MFSR at 12:30.

Example 2: you book SDD at 7:00 AM for a 9:15 return time. You tap in at 9:15 and immediate get an LL for MMRR at 9:45.

DAS example- you arrive at 11 and book SDD. The wait is 180 minutes so you get a return time of 12:20. You eat lunch at 12 so don't get to SDD until 1:15. You can't get another LL until you tap into the second tap point, which is beyond 120 minutes.




DAS does not give you an advantage in the VQ lottery. You need to get a VQ just like everyone else. The only thing it allows you to do is use the LL when you return for your VQ slot rather than the standby line.

Yes, and if you get a DAS, and the line is over two hours, your DAS is tied up for those two hours until you use it. The biggest advantage is that you can ride something, to to your ADR (or take a break someplace), and then come out and ride it, and you don't have to feel rushed.

There's absolutely no advantage to the VQ with DAS, as you said. I really like the VQ...when I don't have my brother with me. If I have him with me, because there's no actual time slot, it's super stressful. I end up buying LL for Guardians a good bit because sometimes he'll get completely fixated on it and I have to give him an actual time that he'll be riding it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Probably not…but they are necessary to try to combat that abuse.

I think anyone exaggerating or making up an impairment should definitely get the gate
It’s theft against the operator and all the other patrons

And no…I don’t support Disney charging us for every second and step…but the consumer has a responsibility to accept what they’re paying for

 

[Ayla]

There are some stunning numbers that Disney is not going to publish. But the percentage of DAS in LL is unbelievable.

I believe Len said DAS accounts for 80% of the LL users...so yeah, don't tell me it isn't being abused by fakers and scammers. I am glad serious changes are being made, to make it fair for everyone.

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

I see it working sort of like parent swap. Person who needs to leave the line and one additional guest can scan out of line. Rest of party remains in standard line. Those who left line get a return time, rest of party experiences ride, two who scanned out return (via the LL) and experience together. Keeps bulk of party in main line (cuts down on LL) allows the individual with health issue to address it and get on the ride within a reasonable period should they need to exit. This is how I see it working but I have no idea.

Edit: Clarification

This only works if you're traveling with another adult. If you travelling solo or with minor children, this doesn't work either.
And it just kind of sucks... I tend to travel with my fiancé. If we have to spend the majority of our vacation riding or waiting separately alone... NO THANKS! Defeats the whole purpose of taking a family vacation together.

 

[SingleRider]

Years ago, Avatar had a system where you could get a pass from a CM when exiting the line. This pass would be used to enter the then-FP line but you would be held near the merge point until the rest of your party made it through the standby line.

I wonder if this new system will look similar.

 

[Andrew25]

Years ago, Avatar had a system where you could get a pass from a CM when exiting the line. This pass would be used to enter the then-FP line but you would be held near the merge point until the rest of your party made it through the standby line.

I wonder if this new system will look similar.

Problem is that not every queue at WDW is built this way or has the space to accommodate.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Then those CM’s that approved the DAS AND their direct supervisors should be termed…a few termed, and it will come to an ABRUPT end.

Agreed. If it's that significant, then hold them accountable.

 

[mickEblu]

We were at the park a few weeks ago and I’m 99% sure a couple with a child hired someone with DAS to take them on rides. They weren’t talking to each other at all in line and then I’m almost positive I heard him say “what do you want to do next, I’m just the guy booking the rides.” The dynamic between the couple and their child with the DAS holder (and his child) did not appear like they were family or friends. It was very awkward looking. Don’t understand how that would be a fun day. Anyway, limiting to 4 people would help with these types of scenarios but I think an exception should definitely be in place for immediate families.

 

[PrincessNelly_NJ]

To me it sounds like the "return to queue" feature will at least provide relief in case someone is denied. Not saying it's right, but it looks like it'll be an secondary option?

I'm really interested in how this will work.
If you have to chase down a CM to get a re-entry pass, that could be problematic.
In my case, I can tell when the episodes are about to start and get myself enough time to exit.
But for others, they may not have time to look for a CM, get a pass, then try to get to a restroom or out of the exit.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah, I definitely can see why they need to limit. Also can see them wanting to limit against say two different families of 3-4 going on vacation together. That said, the last two times we had access to DAS, my brother came with us, so a family of 5. He did stay in the room with us, and the whole point of him coming was to spend time with his nephews. I wonder if something like that situation would also be an exception the new +3 rule.

It’s a slippery slope

I hate abusers

 

[Comped]

I hate to say it, but GR at WDW is very, very cliquey. Back when I did the CP we all had one friend who had a friend and guess what, they had a GAC.

When I was at Rosen, I used to know a few classmates who were frontline/lead GR CMs. That was brought up once by one of them during a class, and the consensus was that it didn't actually happen but was a myth. I disagreed because I had seen and heard such stories enough that it wasn't just a one or two person kind of deal.

And I will not be surprised if we see similar levels of abuse in the next iteration of DAS like in the others.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

They just need to get the doctors that do pre-approvals for insurance companies doing this, there will be like a handful of DAS a day lol.

I said this in another post, but getting a doctors to provide documentation is a painful process. You can't just whip out a note from a previous accomodation and keep using it. I've had medical accomodations; it is a process.

I could maybe see it if the developmental disability isn't obvious to the approver (like if they have severe ADHD but no issues with communicating or those who have higher functioning autism but still need the DAS) but for others, like my brother, you talk to them for thirty seconds and immediately realize that they're disabled. But I think the scare tactic of potentially being banned is enough.

 

[jinx8402]

It’s a slippery slope

I hate abusers

Hope you're not calling me one? lol. I do agree it's a slippery slope, but if we are all in a single same room, clearly we should be considered family unit.

Editing to add: Clearly that slippery slope becomes real when you are talking about 2/3 room suites that can hold 3 different families (that aren't strictly related). I am talking about say a room at CBR, where we stayed, that sleeps 5 in a single room

 

[Drdcm]

my daughter isn't autistic, but comments like this don't help anyone. DD struggles so much in day to day life. Just to be understood (sheneeds AAC), to do things her friends and all of us take for granted every minute of every day. She deserves a vacation too. She deserves a few short days a year where her disability doesn't make everything so difficult for her.

please don’t believe that I am not sympathetic. I do this every day as my job. I was talking about general practice, and would never actually suggest exposure therapy while on vacation at Disney… hence the last sentence of my post.

 

[Ayla]

This entire conversation brings us back around to the fact Disney is not an appropriate place to visit for everyone, nor is it an entitlement people "deserve". There are many, many places in the world that aren't appropriate for me to visit (for multiple reasons), so I don't plan trips there.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I honestly don't care.

 

[Angel Ariel]

This entire conversation brings us back around to the fact Disney is not an appropriate place to visit for everyone, nor is it an entitlement people "deserve". There are many, many places in the world that aren't appropriate for me to visit (for multiple reasons), so I don't plan trips there.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I honestly don't care.

With accommodations my child is able to enjoy WDW just like I and anyone I know does. That's the point of accommodations. Requiring accommodations to do something doesn't mean that thing is inappropriate for a person to do.

That thinking is literally why things like the ADA must exist. because society too easily leans to just excluding disabled people.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

please don’t believe that I am not sympathetic. I do this every day as my job. I was talking about general practice, and would never actually suggest exposure therapy while on vacation at Disney… hence the last sentence of my post.

Yup, everyone is different. For us, we use WDW to help my brother learn life skills, but it's someplace familiar for him and therefore a good place to learn those skills. It's also a safe place to learn those skills, which is the big thing.

May not be the case for every kid.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Hope you're not calling me one? lol. I do agree it's a slippery slope, but if we are all in a single same room, clearly we should be considered family unit.

Not at all. Legitimate use is welcome. Everyone needs a chance at a good time

 

[Brian]

This entire conversation brings us back around to the fact Disney is not an appropriate place to visit for everyone, nor is it an entitlement people "deserve". There are many, many places in the world that aren't appropriate for me to visit (for multiple reasons), so I don't plan trips there.

It's an unpopular opinion, but I honestly don't care.

Try this one on for size: The workplace isn't an appropriate place to be for everyone, nor is it an entitlement people "deserve."

Or maybe: The local grocery store isn't an appropriate place to visit for everyone, nor is it an entitlement people "deserve."

 

[Brian]

Everyone needs a chance at a good time

Just quoting this for emphasis.