New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[StarWarsGirl]

You go tell someone with autism that they can't ride with their whole family. That can be your job since you don't seem to want to accept why Disney would want to accommodate more than 1 companion.

Oh god, I can hear my brother obsessing about it...if that were the case and I took him on every ride while our parents waited, I would hear "where's Mom and Dad?" continuously...that would be one way to ruin everyone's vacation.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Try this one on for size: The workplace isn't an appropriate place to be for everyone, nor is it an entitlement people "deserve."

Or maybe: The local grocery store isn't an appropriate place to visit for everyone, nor is it an entitlement people "deserve."

My child requires accommodations to read. To write. To communicate. By the definition used by that poster, its not appropriate to teach her how to read or write or communicate.

70 years ago my daughter likely would have been hidden away in an institution, not joyfully playing musical chairs with Alice in Wonderland at Disneyland.

(ETA to change 50 to 70 because my sense of time still wants to tell me that 50 years ago was the 50s/60s.)

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

This entire conversation brings us back around to the fact Disney is not an appropriate place to visit for everyone,

Agreed! Anyone with this attitude towards those with disabilities should not visit Disney!

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

who are not being paid to handle these issues

What are they being paid for? To stand around and look pretty?

 

[DisneyCane]

It’s not a solution because it pushes Disney toward breaking the law.


There’s a reason Epic Universe isn’t a virtual queue only park.

What works in a water park doesn't work in a regular park unless the footprint was much larger than normal.

 

[sWANNISAX]

My disability isn't autism or developmental but it is neurological. And when my issue begins its sudden and intense and it does make me need to access a bathroom. Figuring out how to get out of line could be very bad in numerous queues to access the rest room fast enough. I also often visit the parks solo. So I if I have to leave how do I rejoin a group that doesn't exist?

 

[Disney Glimpses]

My disability isn't autism or developmental but it is neurological. And when my issue begins its sudden and intense and it does make me need to access a bathroom. Figuring out how to get out of line could be very bad in numerous queues to access the rest room fast enough. I also often visit the parks solo. So I if I have to leave how do I rejoin a group that doesn't exist?

I believe there will be a process for this exact scenario in place for you to return to the queue when ready.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What are they being paid for? To stand around and look pretty?

They’re largely unskilled, inexperienced and paid low wages

 

[Angel Ariel]

There is a difference between “CAN” and “SHOULD”.

A parent who has a child who is traumatized by crowds, waiting in line, etc. CAN take their child to the busiest theme park in the world and the laws support accommodations.

The question is SHOULD that parent intentionally inflict the emotional and physical pain on that child, in this example, for a day at an amusement park when there are countless other entertainment options available that would be less stressful for the child.

SHOULD that parent knowingly inflict that experience on the cast members throughout the day who are not being paid to handle these issues and the other guests who are just trying to enjoy their perhaps once in a lifetime trip?

Of course, they CAN do it, the question is SHOULD they? What is their responsibility to others (and frankly the safety of the child)?

Requiring an accommodation to do something does not mean the child is traumatized by the experience. So many inappropriate assumptions in this post, I can't even.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

They are being paid to sell a churro, direct the guests to Row #3, and bag your merchandise - not respond to sensitive medical issues and emotional/physical breakdowns.

And assist guests as needed. It’s literally part of the job!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

My disability isn't autism or developmental but it is neurological. And when my issue begins its sudden and intense and it does make me need to access a bathroom. Figuring out how to get out of line could be very bad in numerous queues to access the rest room fast enough. I also often visit the parks solo. So I if I have to leave how do I rejoin a group that doesn't exist?

If you have a virtual spot there should be ways for you to reenter the queue

 

[sWANNISAX]

I believe there will be a process for this exact scenario in place for you to return to the queue when ready.

Hopefully. It's just a lot more stress

 

[sWANNISAX]

If you have a virtual spot there should be ways for you to reenter the queue

A virtual spot where?

 

[ppete1975]

Hopefully with the move to a third-party service Disney also does the following:

1) Do away with unlimited rides, and cap it like Genie+ does
2) Cap ability to experience an ILL attraction to once or twice a day; no reason DAS should get preferential access above other guests
3) Cap how many individuals can be part of the party, or how often they can cycle “family” members in and out of a party
4) DAS holder must experience attraction with the rest of the group

Can you run for president? Id vote for you.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A virtual spot where?

As in they’d have to “re-insert” you into the line

 

[Tha Realest]

There is a difference between “CAN” and “SHOULD”.

A parent who has a child who is traumatized by crowds, waiting in line, etc. CAN take their child to the busiest theme park in the world and the laws support accommodations.

The question is SHOULD that parent intentionally inflict the emotional and physical pain on that child, in this example, for a day at an amusement park when there are countless other entertainment options available that would be less stressful for the child.

SHOULD that parent knowingly inflict that experience on the cast members throughout the day who are not being paid to handle these issues and the other guests who are just trying to enjoy their perhaps once in a lifetime trip?

Of course, they CAN do it, the question is SHOULD they? What is their responsibility to others (and frankly the safety of the child)?

I think you’re missing the point here. Disney, to the best of its ability, should (and is required) to provide reasonable accommodations. If someone has heightened sensory issues, there is little they can do to the environments to ameliorate that. If the accommodation is that someone insists on experiencing an attraction exclusively back to back to back without waiting in line, that’s not reasonable or feasible. But the question shouldn’t be, nor the answer presumed, that people of different abilities shouldn’t experience the parks.

Of course parents/caregivers are in the best position to assess whether a visit is a good idea. None of my children have any cognizable disabilities and we too have had to make assessments whether the visit is appropriate (will they miss school? Are back to back nights okay and can they handle it? Can we afford it?)

Ironically, the only recent story I can think where your hypotheticals make sense is one where a woman tried to play victim on social media. She took her support (I don’t know if it was a service) dog to HHN, and then complained that the scare actors were too provocative for the dog. Ignoring, you know, she brought it into an environment meant to provoke threats to the guests.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Requiring an accommodation to do something does not mean the child is traumatized by the experience. So many inappropriate assumptions in this post, I can't even.

Thank you, I couldn't figure out how to put this.

 

[Tha Realest]

Hopefully with the move to a third-party service Disney also does the following:

1) Do away with unlimited rides, and cap it like Genie+ does
2) Cap ability to experience an ILL attraction to once or twice a day; no reason DAS should get preferential access above other guests
3) Cap how many individuals can be part of the party, or how often they can cycle “family” members in and out of a party
4) DAS holder must experience attraction with the rest of the group

It looks like today’s announcement does at least some of these things…?

 

[networkpro]

I believe the new system is for the better with not everyone satisfied with its strictures.

 

[networkpro]

Cry havoc, let slip the hounds of discontent.