el_super
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Probably not. If it comes down to not accommodating someone and potentially risking a costly lawsuit, and just accommodating them.. which one should they pick?
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Probably not. If it comes down to not accommodating someone and potentially risking a costly lawsuit, and just accommodating them.. which one should they pick?
Indy_UK
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I’m glad they’ve announced something. Going online only should hopefully curb a lot of the abusers for a start.
Part of me feels that they haven’t gone far enough but what they’ve announced may work enough.
Leaving and returning to the ride idea must be for those with toilet issues? I guess removing them from DAS and offering them this I guess takes possibly a whole family away from using DAS.
It doesn’t effect me but it sounds to me that those with mobility issues are also excluded to some extent from DAS?
Edit. Doing it all online too tells me they need to allow people outside the US to sign up too as currently we can’t without a VPN
Part of me feels that they haven’t gone far enough but what they’ve announced may work enough.
Leaving and returning to the ride idea must be for those with toilet issues? I guess removing them from DAS and offering them this I guess takes possibly a whole family away from using DAS.
It doesn’t effect me but it sounds to me that those with mobility issues are also excluded to some extent from DAS?
Edit. Doing it all online too tells me they need to allow people outside the US to sign up too as currently we can’t without a VPN
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drnilescrane
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Except they did take that one on last time, and won.
What's a $50m lawsuit when it's threatening a $2bn a year business?
StarWarsGirl
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- In the Parks
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To answer some from your original post:
1. The issue is that sometimes someone with autism will get fixated on one attraction and just want to ride that attraction repeatedly. Could be one with a longer queue like Space Mountain, or it could be Winnie the Pooh. We rarely do repeat rides anymore because there's enough to experience that it takes us the entire day. The only exception is if we're going on a less crowded day. Well, and also Star Tours, but we usually use standby for that one.
2. For ILL, the only two attractions that have traditional queues right now are FOP and ROTR. I don't know about others, but both of those take so long that we pretty much only do them once per day. DAS gives you no advantage on Tron or GOTG besides letting you go through the LL. Honestly, I prefer the regular queue for GOTG, you miss a ton going through LL.
3. There was already a cap. Anyone who was in your plans could be part of your DAS group, but you were limited to six people. Now it's four.
4. DAS holders already had to experience the attraction.
pdude81
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Did it say whether those preregistered via video will still get to schedule two return windows using the service, or will that be going away? Based on how I read this, that only shows for the "Now-May 19th" portion. I would have no problem with people who verified ahead of time being able to select some return windows.
Fido Chuckwagon
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Unless your disability is developmental-disability related, then it looks to me like you are no longer eligible. You can instead take advantage of the "return to queue" system if you need to take breaks while in line. Seems perfectly fair to me.
Indy_UK
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This is our son. He always just wants to do Pirates and BTMRR over and over. He loves the similarity of doing them.
Fido Chuckwagon
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@lentesta 's sounds pretty vindicated given that his count at Haunted Mansion basically leads to that same conclusion.
Wow. Some of what they announced is quite surprising, like the 4 guest limit. And this:
"If it is determined that any of the statements a Guest made in the process of obtaining DAS are not true, the Guest will be permanently barred from entering Walt Disney World Resort and the Disneyland Resort, and any previously purchased Annual Passes, Magic Key passes, tickets and other park products and services will be forfeited and not refunded."
It will be interesting to see how statements would be checked.
"If it is determined that any of the statements a Guest made in the process of obtaining DAS are not true, the Guest will be permanently barred from entering Walt Disney World Resort and the Disneyland Resort, and any previously purchased Annual Passes, Magic Key passes, tickets and other park products and services will be forfeited and not refunded."
It will be interesting to see how statements would be checked.
el_super
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Do the DAS abusers not pay admission?
TrainsOfDisney
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I think online in the parks day of (Florida) is not the answer since they will have the hold times. in person (California) is a much better solution.
Coaster Lover
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- In the Parks
- No
It seems like there is consensus that the DAS system is being abused, correct? I feel like this question may be near impossible to answer, but is there any evidence (anecdotal or otherwise) that the issue wasn't as prominent when FastPass was free? (i.e. fewer people trying to get essentially free access [DAS] to a system others have to pay for [Genie+]?) I guess what I'm trying to say is that Disney should just make FastPass free again! 
drnilescrane
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You haven't been to WDW lately if you don't think Disney has a take it or leave it attitude towards guests.
I personally think this is a responsible change on Disney's part. They're free to set guidelines, as long as they are clearly communicated and enforced consistently.
they are boosting staffing
Indy_UK
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Aren’t they extending the sign up period to like 120 days. Spread the applications out more
nickys
Premium Member
A lot of reports? Or a few reported multiple times?
Plus without any evidence that it was one single DAS user with 15 guests.
Maybe it wasn’t even a DAS group at all, but a VIP tour, or Club33 member plus guests.
That second part isn't really new. I believe when they rolled out the pre-registration they also had that verbiage. Whether or not they actually took any action is another matter.
StarWarsGirl
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For my brother, it was Space Ranger Spin growing up. Like, on repeat, which is kind of funny now because he really doesn't care about it. Sometimes it also has to be in a specific order. We were at Hersheypark the other day and he had a very specific order of rides to start out with, and we were not allowed to deviate. Growing up, when we went to MK, it always had to be Peoplemover first, then Buzz, then Space Mountain. In that order, no deviation. After that, he was cool to ride anything, but those three had to be first.