New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So apparently…what has been suggested in the moron-o-sphere is rotating DAS, Genie and the standbys so they overlap. That solves the problems with genie because you don’t have to fight for the top tier stuff…

I see it.

No one should be allowed to purchase genie and have DAS…wouldn’t that solve a lot of the problem?

 

[Trauma]

But what's the point of getting so worked up over something that isn't even in effect yet? Disney has always been one of the most inclusive companies out there when it comes to accommodating disabilities. Do you honestly believe that they are going to ignore every disability that isn't autism or developmental?

They absolutely are trying to get more people with disabilities into their regular lines and accommodate them with a return to line system. That's not excluding them.

Simple.

The accommodations being put forward for people with disabilities that are not developmental simply won’t work for my Grandfather.

If they won’t work for him that means it won’t work for many others.

Now if you are suggesting Disney is going to look at his medical history and give him DAS anyways then what’s the point of the changes ?

 

[Splash4eva]

I have no idea. Unlike some posters, I generally give Disney the benefit of the doubt, especially when it comes to being inclusive and handling disabilities. The company has changed - no question. But there will be time enough to get upset and complain if and when an inadequate system is adopted.

Fair but come on i think we both know this return to queue is gonna be a nightmare i cant even fathom how they plan on implementing it effectively think they are hoping noone uses it & its not an issue

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The fact they are spending tens of millions to redo the already insanely popular Splash Mountain and not add a single person of capacity when that is the core issue affecting the parks just shows you how completely clueless they are to how the parks operate and their entirely misguided priorities.

Well they aren’t clueless

They believe blue ocean…meaning they don’t have competition and the consumer can’t resist their pull.

But the problem is that collapsed last year

They tried to claim it was caused by Covid. I can make the case it was delayed by Covid and they dug themselves a deeper pit because of it

 

[Trauma]

Call me whatever names you want, but people with laser eyes definitely shouldn't get DAS.

Who is gonna tell this guy no?

 

[Splash4eva]

So apparently…what has been suggested in the moron-o-sphere is rotating DAS, Genie and the standbys so they overlap. That solves the problems with genie because you don’t have to fight for the top tier stuff…

I see it.

No one should be allowed to purchase genie and have DAS…wouldn’t that solve a lot of the problem?

Disney would never deny anyone who wants to pay for something lol & also why should i not be permitted to pay for something just bc i have DAS?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Simple.

The accommodations being put forward for people with disabilities that are not developmental simply won’t work for my Grandfather.

If they won’t work for him that means it won’t work for many others.

Now if you are suggesting Disney is going to look at his medical history and give him DAS anyways then what’s the point of the changes ?

I thought it was your mom?

And how old is your grandfather?

 

[Chi84]

Simple.

The accommodations being put forward for people with disabilities that are not developmental simply won’t work for my Grandfather.

If they won’t work for him that means it won’t work for many others.

Now if you are suggesting Disney is going to look at his medical history and give him DAS anyways then what’s the point of the changes ?

Maybe for people who are not your Grandfather. The entire point of the ADA is to match accommodations with individual needs. Why not wait to see what happens?

 

[lazyboy97o]

My default assumption would be the same thing's happening now, just based on human behavior. Is there a systematic block in DAS/MDE that would prevent it?

I haven't asked this exact question to others, but if the opportunity pops up, I will.

The system just doesn’t allow it unless a wait is less than 20 minutes. I know cast members can allow early entry the same as they can with FastPass+/Genie+. If there is an issue with cast members letting in people early then the solution would be to restrict that discretion.

 

[pigglewiggle]

I know this isn’t relevant to anything but you brought up medicine while I was putting my eye drops in, so I thought I would share.

I just had LASIK vision surgery at 8 this morning and I can already see like I’m 21 again.

Just incase anyone has trouble seeing in this thread, it’s the closest thing to a miracle I’ve experienced.

Sorry for sidetracking back on topic !!

How bad was your vision? My is 5.50 and 6.00 for my contact lens prescription. It's been stable for years.

 

[Splash4eva]

Maybe for people who are not your Grandfather. The entire point of the ADA is to match accommodations with individual needs. Why not wait to see what happens?

Here is the issue with wait and see. I have a trip booked in June if we get denied my Mom 100% cant go unless she wants to basically do nothing and jist come to come and myself also will have issues dealing with any real line and would have to solely rely on Genie and short lines. As ive said i like to gamble but this is a risky one to say the least

 

[lazyboy97o]

I didn't see anything about excluding a massive array of actual disabilities. I do think they are trying to better tailor the accommodation to the specific disability, which is really what the ADA is all about when it comes to accommodation.

The big area is physical disabilities that are not actually resolved by a wheelchair or ECV. There are a variety of conditions where prolonged sitting or standing cause pain and or other issues that Disney has for awhile
now been more obstinate in properly accommodating.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disney would never deny anyone who wants to pay for something lol & also why should i not be permitted to pay for something just bc i have DAS?

Because you’re getting access to a virtual queue and their ride reservation system that doesn’t speak to each other…allowing more access usage than every other paying customer.

I mean…are we serious here? You don’t see how that isn’t greater benefit…if I’m reading it right?

 

[Trauma]

I thought it was your mom?

And how old is your grandfather?

My Mom did qualify for DAS under the old system.

She will not qualify under the new one.

However the return to line thing may be suitable for her.

My Grandfather is 81, and leaving and returning to line will not work for him.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

My Mom did qualify for DAS under the old system.

She will not qualify under the new one.

However the return to line thing may be suitable for her.

My Grandfather is 81, and leaving and returning to line will not work for him.

Well…he probably doesn’t body surf either, correct?

 

[Trauma]

Well…he probably doesn’t body surf either, correct?

No he doesn’t body surf, but I’m not sure what that has to do with riding PPF with the great grandkids.

 

[Happyday]

Maybe I can chime in here and say that this isn't a fully automated system at all.

While the tracking is taking place, almost all wait time adjustments are at the discretion of the Frontline manager on duty in charge of the attraction. And it's based on their own visual judgment of the line and also relies on the CM's at various positions to radio or call them to inform them of line updates.

Then the manager can send a new time to the team that controls wait times. At least at all the rides I've worked at.

The team tracking and updating lines can see the actual wait(what ppl are actually waiting vs the posted time) and can tell the manager that they are over or underposting. But that usually isn't needed.

Is it me or are they still not using the red tags like they did before 2020? Wouldn't that add an extra layer to help?

 

[Chi84]

Here is the issue with wait and see. I have a trip booked in June if we get denied my Mom 100% cant go unless she wants to basically do nothing and jist come to come and myself also will have issues dealing with any real line and would have to solely rely on Genie and short lines. As ive said i like to gamble but this is a risky one to say the least

That’s a bad position to be in. I started going to Disney as an adult in 1984 and we took my mother (who had osteoarthritis) before any type of fastpass. She ended up not going on many of the rides with longer waits.

Back then we didn’t even think about asking for accommodations. If the lines were too long we just skipped the rides.

Things are so much better now that more people are included and able to enjoy more experiences. It’s hard to believe some people’s attitudes.

 

[Splash4eva]

Because you’re getting access to a virtual queue and their ride reservation system that doesn’t speak to each other…allowing more access usage than every other paying customer.

I mean…are we serious here? You don’t see how that isn’t greater benefit…if I’m reading it right?

What i think you are missing is this. If the lines are all long. You can only book 1 ride at a time. So if i book a 90 minute wait what does one do with a child? Or with anyone? Then wash rinse repeat? Not the best of days… im willingly buying another product to grant me the same access to skip the line. Im not gonna debate or say its not an “advantage” but telling someone they cant buy something is also unfair as well imo. Hence why i keep saying. Get rid of the larger party size get rid of the pre bookings and im all for and i know its illegal getting rid of re rides… or at least only permit th DAS user and 1 other to re ride

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No he doesn’t body surf, but I’m not sure what that has to do with riding PPF with the great grandkids.

That’s the grey area…which is what is why they are changing the policy

He may be entitled to accommodation…

But it falls into a basket under the current system where people can talk their way into the same basket and it’s screwing with genie

It’s unbalanced and getting into genie’s pocket