New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How many abusers are going to actually pay for G+? These are people who don't want to pay which is why there was an increase in DAS usage at the same time G+ was implemented.

I imagine that there will be slightly more G+ usage, people will have fights in the standby lines with "leave and return" and the wait times will stay the same.

Yeah…

15 minutes of Reddit research opens the eyes.

The most frequent description is “just say you have anxiety…”

Which is why there is ire and offense ramping up.

 

[Happyday]

Thats fair and i think the reduction from 6 to 4 will help as well for starters but bottom line the 2 pre books need to go asap and this coming from someone who uses DAS

Absolutely

 

[DryerLintFan]

So what is your suggested alternative?

I know it’s not suggesting if you “really need it” you get walked on…because that isn’t gonna fly.

The problem is in Orlando getting on a ride takes “work” due to mismanagement. That is what’s creating the chaos and causing a raging debate for what would never be an issue if the parks were equipped properly.

I remember when i was first researching DAS i came across a couple of posters saying that Disney recommend they wear an adult diaper. As you can imagine that didn’t land well for them. But in the years since i saw that i haven’t seen it brought up once, so I’ve just begun to assume it never happened and Disney doesn’t make that suggestion

 

[DryerLintFan]

I’m just going to use the numbers…according to the CDC, the autism rate in 2000 was approximately 1 in 150…last year in NJ (where I live is now 1 in 35.
The rates have increased over 4 times in 23 years. So if the numbers are increasing at that alarming rate, and Disney is such a popular attraction for children with autism, the numbers are never going to decrease, only increase. So we’re going to see a dip in guests that really need it and don’t have access to it with a steady increase in DAS numbers…I just don’t get it…Disney, the epitome of inclusion EXCLUDING whole groups…

It’s faulty logic. The numbers of people with autism are increasing not because we have some wild autism epidemic. It’s because autistic people are figuring out they’re autistic, and getting evaluated and diagnosed. It’s not going to keep exponentially growing. Eventually (soon, maybe now) it will plateau. The increase rate you said isn’t going to be a constant

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I remember when i was first researching DAS i came across a couple of posters saying that Disney recommend they wear an adult diaper. As you can imagine that didn’t land well for them. But in the years since i saw that i haven’t seen it brought up once, so I’ve just begun to assume it never happened and Disney doesn’t make that suggestion

That’s a power move for Epcot though

 

[DryerLintFan]

DAS goes in the ILL line, I believe. I could be wrong.

You are correct. Riders would have to get the VQ first, but when they show up at the attraction they’d go in the LL not the SB

 

[haveyoumetmark]

We definitely have a capacity issue here that is messed up beyond repair for the foreseeable future. Reading some of the responses in this thread is like Lord of the Flies LOL What are people going to have to start resorting to in order to get seats on some of these rides?

There are not enough seats on rides to go around for any given day.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s faulty logic. The numbers of people with autism are increasing not because we have some wild autism epidemic. It’s because autistic people are figuring out they’re autistic, and getting evaluated and diagnosed. It’s not going to keep exponentially growing. Eventually (soon, maybe now) it will plateau. The increase rate you said isn’t going to be a constant

Yeah agree

These things aren’t “contagious”…it’s just more doctor visits, more research, more classification.

Also environmental factors may be at play.

I’ll give an unrelated example

The rates of “mental retardation” (I know…clutch your pearls) decreased significantly in the late 1960s to 1980s…

Why is that odd? Because of a ban on lead in gas, paint, consumer products and the catalytic converter.

Coincidence, huh?

By a similar token…the rate of autism has risen as other classifications were abandoned

 

[brettf22]

Not to hijack this thread, but you liked it? I've considered it but the idea of lasers and eyes are giving me the squick.

Seriously, I had it done 15 years ago. Still 20/20. Wish I had done it sooner.

 

[el_super]

There are not enough seats on rides to go around for any given day.

The overall park capacity doesn't do anything to resolve he issues caused by the management of standby/G+/DAS. The only thing that will resolve this is some mythical ride that has the demand of a big coaster/E-Ticket while simultaneously having the capacity for 4000-6000 people per hour.

Such an attraction does not exist.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The overall park capacity doesn't do anything to resolve he issues caused by the management of standby/G+/DAS. The only thing that will resolve this is some mythical ride that has the demand of a big coaster/E-Ticket while simultaneously having the capacity for 4000-6000 people per hour.

Such an attraction does not exist.

Not true

As we have covered many a time

 

[Trauma]

How many abusers are going to actually pay for G+? These are people who don't want to pay which is why there was an increase in DAS usage at the same time G+ was implemented.

I imagine that there will be slightly more G+ usage, people will have fights in the standby lines with "leave and return" and the wait times will stay the same.

The locals AP’s and DVC people will have the word out on how to lie soon enough.

In other words, the cheaters will still be there.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The overall park capacity doesn't do anything to resolve he issues caused by the management of standby/G+/DAS. The only thing that will resolve this is some mythical ride that has the demand of a big coaster/E-Ticket while simultaneously having the capacity for 4000-6000 people per hour.

Such an attraction does not exist.

If they hired me as a consultant I could give a quick fix to MK in a few months.

Quick solution is to pack the park with more characters and live entertainment. At the same time run all attractions with full staffing and have extra maintenance standing by to deal with down time as quickly as possible.

That alone would change things fast.

 

[Happyday]

If they hired me as a consultant I could give a quick fix to MK in a few months.

Quick solution is to pack the park with more characters and live entertainment. At the same time run all attractions with full staffing and have extra maintenance standing by to deal with down time as quickly as possible.

That alone would change things fast.

I agree but... that would take money and you can be sure certain there are people that can afford to take a pay cut that won't just to make it happen and you know where that money would come from. Hint you can find them in this thread...

 

[Trauma]

If they hired me as a consultant I could give a quick fix to MK in a few months.

Quick solution is to pack the park with more characters and live entertainment. At the same time run all attractions with full staffing and have extra maintenance standing by to deal with down time as quickly as possible.

That alone would change things fast.

Buy enough shares to make me CEO and I will hire you as a consultant.

It’s a good deal!

 

[SamusAranX]

If they hired me as a consultant I could give a quick fix to MK in a few months.

Quick solution is to pack the park with more characters and live entertainment. At the same time run all attractions with full staffing and have extra maintenance standing by to deal with down time as quickly as possible.

That alone would change things fast.

But that would completely violate The Disney WayTM

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Buy enough shares to make me CEO and I will hire you as a consultant.

It’s a good deal!

The Iine for that job forms right behind my butt

 

[Patcheslee]

I remember when i was first researching DAS i came across a couple of posters saying that Disney recommend they wear an adult diaper. As you can imagine that didn’t land well for them. But in the years since i saw that i haven’t seen it brought up once, so I’ve just begun to assume it never happened and Disney doesn’t make that suggestion

The new pdf shared lists incontinence products are available in the parks. So can't say it's not valid.

 

[Tha Realest]

Once the system is out there and folks with actual disabilities that previously qualified, now no longer qualify, we will hear it and know it.

You are entitled to a reasonable accommodation for your disability. Not the accommodation you feel you’re entitled to due to your disability.

In essence, Disney is offering a more encompassing series accommodations to a non-verbal person with Down Syndrome vs someone with Type 1 diabetes or extreme irritable bowel syndrome.

 

[Tha Realest]

What i think you are missing is this. If the lines are all long. You can only book 1 ride at a time. So if i book a 90 minute wait what does one do with a child? Or with anyone? Then wash rinse repeat?

I know your intent is to engender sympathy but what you’re describing is increasingly the experience for most of us average, non-DAS guests on most days at WDW.

DAS is apparently the largest contributor to this phenomenon