You’re joking right?
I suppose I should have qualified that they are very good at crowd control at the micro day to day level, not in the macro sense of having enough capacity. They are really good at things like controlling crowds at entrances and exits, choke points, transportation, crowd flows after parades/fireworks/ etc. Managing a “return to line” system is similar. It’s the type of thing they excel at. I have faith in them.
Its impossible to police by saying you cant ride something in between. What they should have done was simply eliminate the 2 rides right away when they saw a capacity issue. Next was force everyone to register online. Both those decisions would have eased some of the pain imo bare minimum you get those 2 rides back and both of these changes are not discriminating against anyone who has a disability. Then reevaluate again.
Fair enough, although I would disagree only on the MK end of night show. I skip it almost always even if my group is new and wants to do it. They can’t handle it well anymore simply because every one wants to see it
Not sure if you are aware, but the rides with the virtual queue, DAS people also have to take their chances with getting a VQ. They don't automatically get to make a DAS for them. So they are in the exact same position as everyone else when it comes to those.
I don’t know, I’m honestly always amazed that nobody is getting trampled or injured on a regular basis considering just how large those crowds are exiting that park all at the same time. They have tons of staff directing crowd flow all over the place including the ability to rapidly open up choke points as needed (the two backstage exits they can open). I still think it’s fairly impressive even though it may not be pleasant/ideal if you yourself are in that crowd at exit.
I am not the typical park goer. I don't do most of the rides. And I watch the wait times and go as needed. There have been plenty of times that I had to leave the LL to use the restroom and come back. I don't think that you are comprehending the nature of my disability because you keep implying that I don't either have one or that I don't have one bad enough for DAS. And I am assuring right now, that if it were not for DAS, I would not go because I am not going to have an accident in line or cause myself harm because someone like you thinks that I am faking it. You seem to lack any shred of empathy for those with legitimate medical issues. But hey, as long as you get on the ride a couple minutes faster, that is all you care about, right?Perhaps you should wait and see what Disney announces before you reflexively dismiss their solution as unworkable. I still don’t understand how this isn’t a better solution for you. You can’t wait in lines that are more than 20 minutes and there are a decent number of lightning lanes that are more than 20 minutes! I’m going to give Disney the benefit of the doubt that they’re not a bunch of idiots and have a plan to handle solo travelers. Given that this sounds like a much better solution for you.
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1. For the past year, from April 2023 - April 2024, on a month by month basis, the monthly average posted wait time has been:
A: May: 12 minutes;
B: June: 13 minutes;
C: July: 12 minutes;
D: August: 12 minutes;
E: September: 12 minutes;
F: October: 13 minutes;
G: November: 15 minutes;
H: December: 17 minutes;
I: January: 17 minutes
J: February: 16 minutes;
K: March: 15 minutes;
L: April 14 minutes;
It is important to of course not that these are the posted wait times, not the actual wait times, as it is well known that Disney’s wait times are nearly universally inflated to some degree versus actual wait time.
Your repeated personal attacks continue to be unappreciated. I have repeatedly, repeatedly, stated that I absolutely believe you have the disability you state. The new system that Disney has announced continues to seem much better for you and others similarly situated given that it will allow people to exit lines whenever they need to and then return to those lines when they are able to. You should perhaps give Disney a chance to see how this works before bashing the company.
I don’t think enough is known about the new system to be “all for” it. Have you read through the entire thread? Posters have been pretty clear about why they understand a change needs to be made.
Anything with a virtual queue is already limited. DAS users need a slot in the virtual queue in order to ride.
Yes, I have read all 72 pages. The point that I'm trying to get insight on is why do you care? How does this change benefit you if you are not a DAS user?
If 50-75 percent of Lightning Lane Capacity is going to DAS users (per @lentesta above), and 80-95 percent of overall ride capacity is going to the Lightning Lane, then DAS abuse impacts everyone, quite substantially, including other DAS users. This would mean that 40 percent to 71 percent of a ride’s capacity is being taken up by DAS users. The unknown “x” factor here is how many people are DAS users, but I’m going to go ahead and guess that it’s substantially less than 40 to 71 percent of park goers, probably by an order of magnitude or so.
Fair. So what will DAS abusers have to do when denied a DAS? Obviously these people clearly have an aversion to waiting in line so what are their options?
Well, if they have a disability that prevents them from waiting in a long line without a break it sounds like they will be accommodated by being able to exit the line when needed with a return to line pass.
Some will choose to buy Genie+ or ILLs, others will choose to stand in line because they won’t or can’t pay for it, still others may choose to go on fewer rides and explore all the other things besides rides that the parks offer. Finally, some may go elsewhere.
Ok, when all of these DAS abusers go to G+, what happens to G+ and it's availability and pricing?
What makes you think they will all go there?
