News New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[jennab55]

I totally agree and all i can say is that i ultimately was approved for DAS for my trip next week but i also was able to get a good amount of info from them before that in what was about a week long process from beginning to end. As i said i was asked not to discuss and for good reason but some friendly email ls and video chats can go a long way for anyone that has any concerns is how i will
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I would not give anyone any information on what you did, said, or didn’t say/do. That’s how people start to spread information and use it when desperate.

 

[NotTheOne]

Nobody is saying that kids should or would wait alone. Even now, you can have someone with you outside of the line. Isn't that what everyone is saying? That this accommodation is fair? So if it a great alternative to DAS, then again, get rid of DAS and have everyone go with this new accommodation system. Then no one would have cause to feel discriminated against.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Disney did get rid of DAS...I would hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

 

[jaklgreen]

But again, these are people who need it 100% of the time. Many others do not, they only need it sometimes. Thats where I see the main difference. Example, IBS isn’t going to cause problems in every line, it might and it might not.

But again, who are we to tell others how they should plan their days? If you have ever had a condition like that, you would know that there is very little warning on that and no one wants to be 45 minutes deep in a line and try to "excuse me, excuse me" out of the line and hope to get to the bathroom in time. It is much easier to get out of the LL than the standby line.
So again, no one knows what individual people have to deal with to say that they do or do not need DAS. I can't stress that enough that no one should be assuming anyone's disability and how it affects them.
This is the whole, "it is better to let a guilty man go free than to wrongly convict an innocent man" argument.

 

[Splash4eva]

But they still have accommodations, they are just different than DAS. People just want DAS because they had it before and know it’s easier and better.

Das is not technically better than the alternative

 

[Angel Ariel]

I don't agree with that at all. That was Disney's whole reasoning, that DAS made the average guest experience worse so that is why they changed it. So you think that other detriments to the average guest experience is just fine? Why stop at just DAS? After all, isn't the average guest experience the most important thing here? That is sarcasm by the way.
You can see where I am going here, can't you? You are concerned that they will take away accommodations from everyone else that still qualifies, right? It doesn't feel good, does it?

You're missing my point entirely. This isn't July. We are in an entirely different world as of last month. This issue is larger than Disney and DAS.

As I've said repeatedly - yes, I believe there are people who are no longer qualifying for DAS who should. I also think there were people who got DAS before that were cheating the system. I also believe there is a middle ground where people qualified for DAS in the past but other accommodations can still work for them.

ALL of these things can be true at once. You want to pigeonhole me into believing one thing, and you are incorrect. Continuing to twist my words at this point is disingenuous. I've voiced the same concerns and worries since well before I knew if my child qualified or not. My stance hasn't changed since.

 

[Splash4eva]

I would not give anyone any information on what you did, said, or didn’t say/do. That’s how people start to spread information and use it when desperate.

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Not trust me. But the point im making is that the alternative to DAS honestly is more than fair if you RTQ with a group and possibly better if you are alone/single parent

 

[NotTheOne]

What other means? The only thing that they are doing is telling you to have your family go through and you meet up with them at the merge. So why isn't that the go to accommodation for everyone then? Only those with Autism should be allowed to spend their days with their whole family? You can't have it both ways, pick one type of disability and say that they can stick with this "better accommodation", while telling everyone else "too bad".

Accommodations aren't meant to be one size fits all, even though that's what DAS evolved into.

 

[jennab55]

But again, who are we to tell others how they should plan their days? If you have ever had a condition like that, you would know that there is very little warning on that and no one wants to be 45 minutes deep in a line and try to "excuse me, excuse me" out of the line and hope to get to the bathroom in time. It is much easier to get out of the LL than the standby line.
So again, no one knows what individual people have to deal with to say that they do or do not need DAS. I can't stress that enough that no one should be assuming anyone's disability and how it affects them.
This is the whole, "it is better to let a guilty man go free than to wrongly convict an innocent man" argument.

I actually do understand, my husband deals with something like IBS and we do a lot of planning. Sometimes he has to miss things too. I don’t think he should be eligible for DAS because it’s so random. He could be fine in a standby like or he couldn’t. We plan accordingly.

 

[jaklgreen]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Disney did get rid of DAS...I would hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

I guess that I wouldn't be either. What they are doing now is not the right thing. It absolutely looks like that they are picking and choosing which disability is "bad enough". I understand their reasoning, but it still does not look good for them. People just see that they are discriminating against a lot of disabilities.

 

[Splash4eva]

Also. Dont kid yourself that as much as they wanted to “crack down” on DAS they wanted to ultimately monetize a system they created years ago and this was a simple way to do it

 

[jennab55]

Das is not technically better than the alternative

It absolutely is. It gives much more flexibility and no need to walk to each individual ride.

 

[NotTheOne]

I guess that I wouldn't be either. What they are doing now is not the right thing. It absolutely looks like that they are picking and choosing which disability is "bad enough". I understand their reasoning, but it still does not look good for them. People just see that they are discriminating against a lot of disabilities.

Some people believe they are discriminating, but so long as they are offering accommodations they are not discriminating. As has been said many times, no one is legally entitled to the accommodation of their choosing, nor should they be.

 

[jennab55]

I guess that I wouldn't be either. What they are doing now is not the right thing. It absolutely looks like that they are picking and choosing which disability is "bad enough". I understand their reasoning, but it still does not look good for them. People just see that they are discriminating against a lot of disabilities.

Again; it’s not which is “bad enough”. I honestly don’t know how to explain it differently to you as you seem to be choosing to not understand. There is a difference between something that will happen all the time in a queue and something that will happen sometimes. Do you not see that? Accommodations are not the same for all disabilities, as you’ve stated, so why should all disabilities get DAS?

 

[jaklgreen]

But again, these are people who need it 100% of the time. Many others do not, they only need it sometimes. Thats where I see the main difference. Example, IBS isn’t going to cause problems in every line, it might and it might not.

Yeah, but that is not for you or me to decide how one deals with it. Your husband's IBS is not the same as other's. Again, people are not going through the hassle of leaving the lines and separating from their families if the don't need to. And you don't know that those with DAS used it for every ride. There have been plenty that said that they didn't. And you also can't say that those with Autism NEED it for every ride. Not everyone has the same triggers. Can't you see how this is not black and white?

 

[Chi84]

This argument will go nowhere - just like last time. Maybe just let the comments go if they’re just repeating what was said before.

 

[Splash4eva]

It absolutely is. It gives much more flexibility and no need to walk to each individual ride.

Listen as i said im not giving out details but DAS may not be the best if denied after what was told
And explained to me.

 

[jennab55]

Yeah, but that is not for you or me to decide how one deals with it. Your husband's IBS is not the same as other's. Again, people are not going through the hassle of leaving the lines and separating from their families if the don't need to. And you don't know that those with DAS used it for every ride. There have been plenty that said that they didn't. And you also can't say that those with Autism NEED it for every ride. Not everyone has the same triggers. Can't you see how this is not black and white?

I said above that not all people with autism need DAS. It absolutely isn’t black and white.

Here’s another way of thinking. For IBS, the issue isn’t being caused by the queue. For some people with developmental disabilities, the issue IS being caused by rhe queue.

 

[jaklgreen]

Some people think it they can’t get something that no one should…. Quite sad.

For the record, I don't think that at all. But that is the optics of what Disney has done here. There absolutely are people who feel slighted and with good reason. Them adding the "you are not allowed to sue us in a class action" clause just to speak to them doesn't look good either.
And NO ONE is saying that there should be zero accommodations for anyone. That is ridiculous. But there absolutely should be better options than what Disney is giving now.

 

[jaklgreen]

I totally agree and all i can say is that i ultimately was approved for DAS for my trip next week but i also was able to get a good amount of info from them before that in what was about a week long process from beginning to end. As i said i was asked not to discuss and for good reason but some friendly email ls and video chats can go a long way for anyone that has any concerns is how i will
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I am glad that they gave you the info you needed. I wish that they were open about it all, like the other theme parks are.

 

[jennab55]

For the record, I don't think that at all. But that is the optics of what Disney has done here. There absolutely are people who feel slighted and with good reason. Them adding the "you are not allowed to sue us in a class action" clause just to speak to them doesn't look good either.
And NO ONE is saying that there should be zero accommodations for anyone. That is ridiculous. But there absolutely should be better options than what Disney is giving now.

I didn’t mean you thought that, just a general statement.

The class action lawsuit doesn’t mean people can’t sue, just not as a class action. Would have to be individual lawsuits.