New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Angel Ariel]

Okay thank you… so basically rider swap is nothing new being offered

It being extended to adults is new, but how it functions is not

 

[The Mom]

Poster are starting to cross the line between discussion with different opinions versus arguing. Arguing will not be tolerated. Fair warning.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

an honest question to those seeking DAS and other accessibility - are you being met with CM’s genuinely trying to help you, or are you being met with attitude?

I’ve seen some reports online, but I’m hoping they aren’t true.

 

[C33Mom]

The uncertainty is somewhat temporary. As of now no one knows if they will qualify. But a year from now many people (especially locals and AP holders) will have found out if they qualify a few times and have some certainty (nothing is guaranteed obviously) whether they will continue to qualify. At that point a person may say "why call ahead of time and wait hours when I can do it in the park and wait 5 minutes?"

I don’t think you should assume the uncertainty is temporary—that has set so many DASholders up for disappointment with the current overhaul. If the current changes do not allow sufficient operational improvements (as more and more people learn what to say to get DAS and/or how to “hack” the AQR system), Disney can change one or both programs again. I expect they will probably end up doing so by the end of next year.

 

[Splash4eva]

an honest question to those seeking DAS and other accessibility - are you being met with CM’s genuinely trying to help you, or are you being met with attitude?

I’ve seen some reports online, but I’m hoping they aren’t true.

On the trip i just came back from i witnessed 2 groups looking for a return time a very small sample size and from what i was able to tell on both instances CM’s seemed not to thrilled and very “short” when having to deal with it.

 

[Splash4eva]

I don’t think you should assume the uncertainty is temporary—that has set so many DASholders up for disappointment with the current overhaul. If the current changes do not allow sufficient operational improvements (as more and more people learn what to say to get DAS and/or how to “hack” the AQR system), Disney can change one or both programs again. I expect they will probably end up doing so by the end of next year.

If that is the case what is the point? It only comes back to the original comments i made and others. Cheaters gonna cheat and liars are gonna lie… if they want to truly fix this. Go to a 3rd party and call it a day

 

[Jrb1979]

If that is the case what is the point? It only comes back to the original comments i made and others. Cheaters gonna cheat and liars are gonna lie… if they want to truly fix this. Go to a 3rd party and call it a day

IMO with each day that goes by I don't think the changes had anything to do with that. The changes were more to get as many people out of LL queues as possible

 

[John park hopper]

CM's manning attractions should not have to make DAS calls--it should all be done ahead of time by. guest services. Issue a pass stating what accommodations guest is entitled too

 

[Jrb1979]

CM's manning attractions should not have to make DAS calls--it should all be done ahead of time by. guest services. Issue a pass stating what accommodations guest is entitled too

They aren't making DAS calls at the attractions. If you are denied DAS, most will use the ACR option. You will have to enter standby and if you have to leave the queue they will then put you through the LL queue to meet you party.

 

[bwr827]

They aren't making DAS calls at the attractions. If you are denied DAS, most will use the ACR option. You will have to enter standby and if you have to leave the queue they will then put you through the LL queue to meet you party.

Semantics (see next paragraph). It’s clear they (and other similar posts) are talking about the apparent responsibility cast members at rides have to determine/offer appropriate accommodation to guests in the moment.

We can all agree that the name DAS is now confusing, given that it is not an umbrella for the full range of accommodations available to those who may need them.

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

Semantics (see next paragraph). It’s clear they (and other similar posts) are talking about the apparent responsibility cast members at rides have to determine/offer appropriate accommodation to guests in the moment.

We can all agree that the name DAS is now confusing, given that it is not an umbrella for the full range of accommodations available to those who may need them.

It appears that the CM calls are based upon factors like the attraction party size, the point in line which the exit happens, if the exit happens at all (are people trying to get accommodations to wait elsewhere at the attraction), crowd levels, and other factors that aren’t related to the actual need or disability.

Not sure how you could offload those things from attraction CMs. You won’t know in advance if all the capable adults in party are riding, where in the queue the exit happens, if it’s easier just to allow an immediate entry into LL upon exit, etc beforehand.

 

[Joel]

If that is the case what is the point? It only comes back to the original comments i made and others. Cheaters gonna cheat and liars are gonna lie… if they want to truly fix this. Go to a 3rd party and call it a day

I'm far less worried about people's ability to cheat now than I used to be, especially considering how many people in various online Disney communities -- who are significantly more informed than the average guest -- still think DAS is diagnosis-based.

All the "Everyone will just say they have autism now. Checkmate, Disney!" comments when this change was first announced turned out to not be nearly as clever as people thought they were.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

They aren't making DAS calls at the attractions. If you are denied DAS, most will use the ACR option.

It’s been repeated many times by various posters that nobody is being denied Disability Access - they are just being offered other accommodations- and those accommodations are being handled at the attractions.

Not sure how you could offload those things from attraction CMs.

Well… they weren’t a part of the attraction CM job until very recently.

 

[nickys]

Rider switch as it's stated on Disney's site, though, requires there to be a non-rider. So if it is an attraction that all in the party want to ride, that doesn't appear to work as a disability accommodation.

They adapt it.

The person who can’t wait in line waits with a carer, then when the first group comes off the ride the two go through the LL line.

 

[nickys]

I'm far less worried about people's ability to cheat now than I used to be, especially considering how many people in various online Disney communities -- who are significantly more informed than the average guest -- still think DAS is diagnosis-based.

All the "Everyone will just say they have autism now. Checkmate, Disney!" comments when this change was first announced turned out to not be nearly as clever as people thought they were.

And saying that does not guarantee you DAS.

So not Checkmate at all.

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

Well… they weren’t a part of the attraction CM job until very recently.

Because everyone was covered by DAS. Attraction CMs are not assigning DAS to people, they’re determining the appropriate way to assist in exiting and re-entering lines, which is based on a multitude of sometimes changing factors that can’t always be assigned ahead of time (unless you want to let everyone skip the physical queue which they clearly do not).

Edit: I believe attraction CMs were however (correct me if I’m wrong) “determining” accommodations for some physical needs that did not qualify for DAS. By determining, I mean they listened to the need and accommodated appropriately without any prior approval from Disney.

 

[Purduevian]

Perhaps, but they are often VERY unpredictable. Having used them many times, it is often a total gamble. The wait for RNRC was especially uneven. Mid-day, you could use it once- 10min wait. Try it a second time, right away, and the wait was 60min.

Totally off topic... but if you are an odd numbered party on these attractions. You can spread a little magic by switching your odd man out for the other person in a group of 2 that waited SR.

I was going solo on RNRC as I had a LL and got paired with a mom. Her and her son had waited about the same as than the posted standby wait in the SR line. Her face lit up when I offered to swap seats with her son so they could ride together as I was riding with a stranger either way.

Back to DAS discussions, rider swap already separates you from most of your party for riding, I think SR is a fine thing to put as a potential accommodation as it works super well on TT and EE.

 

[NotTheOne]

Semantics (see next paragraph). It’s clear they (and other similar posts) are talking about the apparent responsibility cast members at rides have to determine/offer appropriate accommodation to guests in the moment.

We can all agree that the name DAS is now confusing, given that it is not an umbrella for the full range of accommodations available to those who may need them.

DAS was never a full range of accommodations though - it was one specific accommodation.

 

[Joel]

AQR existing and being available to all guests is a good thing that should have been formalized a long time ago. People have needed to leave queues for all sorts of emergencies since time immemorial.

People can be weirdly selective when it comes to their concern for cast members' well-being. The former status quo was not particularly good for attractions CMs either. In time, I think this will be an improvement overall.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The former status quo was not particularly good for attractions CMs either.

How so?