GAC skipped the standing and the waiting.
That was the way it was designed, not an “issue”. For some people a return time would not have been possible to meet. The open-ended return was designed to allow guests to return when their situation allowed.
It was an “issue” for operations. The return time window could be generous, but it needs to exist to properly calculate wait time expectations for other guests.
Again i stressed majority & clearly said not all… i would be comfy in saying 75% of locals who has das knew what to say & how to play the game.I'm not saying this to pick a fight or to bash your opinion and observations, quite the opposite as it's something I've been super stressed over. In my case (and I can only speak for myself) I have several interconnected disabilities where they all sort of make each other "worse" in certain situations. I only ever needed to mention the one in previous interviews. I was never asked what -else- made lines an impossibility. So I never said "okay so it's issue A that effects X and then issue B chimes in and causes Y to happen to X and Z and then issue C needles issue B and makes X and Y worse" I only had to say so it's issue A which causes X. Issue A is embarrassing and awkward but it's the quickest to explain and cast members (and UO team members at the time when that was a thing) were always very quick to approve and get off the subject.
I completely understand why this would look to many as suspicious. It's something I've been stressing about since the news came out like oh BEANS I've never had to tell the full story. I'm so nervous about being misunderstood I tend to over communicate which makes it -worse- I'm actually working on a flow chart to show at attractions so the information can be conveyed without me dumping piles of disorganized details at every CMs feet. Like here's the full picture I never had to give before, please help
They could, and probably did, assume that 80% would return within an hour. The ones that didn’t would be the outliers. How would it have helped if the return time was 3 hours?
And im not saying this to side with Disney but Genie+ has again worked excellent for me this trip so yes as a DAS holder its nice to have both but if i am denied on whenever my next trip is i feel okay to still come here if my daughter wants. I have pretty much ALL great experiences with the product and ive been here at 4 different “times” of year so. I know its not ideal for those who dont buy Genie but it is an option imo.
I've never understood why this was the case, given how generously DAS is structured. If there was a fixed return window, and someone can't meet it, they could cancel and immediately rejoin the line without needing to be anywhere near the ride, correct?
I don't think Disney wants to put people in the position of picking to making their return time or taking care of an issue associated with a disability.
This is pretty much exactly what I thought your response would be. As mentioned earlier in this thread... many of those with developmental disabilities who continue to qualify under the new system utilize DAS exactly the way you describe. Often the centrifugal motions and sensory stimulation of the ride experiences ARE what helps them stay regulated, and the way they accessed the park on paper makes them look like they don't need DAS specifically BECAUSE they had DAS. The data you reference actually points to DAS doing what it is designed to do, not that the person using it didn't need it.
Yes this is another “loophole” of something that could have eased the pain but say on a headliner it would not matter.. again im guilty of doing this but ill book say 7Ds during dinner so when we are done we can go ride it asap. But even with say a return window. You are talking it will already have a 60 min wait then say another 1 hour window and the 15 min grace. You are talking close to 2.5 hours to get on it. But yes this is something that imo Disney can do like with the pre books. You have an hour window to return and use it. Ill say this. They are pretty strict with these return times to a degree from my experience. They could have easily done the same with DAS and also the 10 minute reduction is really not needed either. I understood “why” they gave people that but its another “perk” that wasnt needed. Thats 20 minutes a ride people now “lose” again that adds up.
My wording was bad I apologize, I didn't and don't want to sound antagonizing at all. Just, I'm in that group of disabled locals and I'm terrified Disney will view things this way and I'll end up facing even more challenges. I am local. I do know what I'm doing in a Disney park. I've been a frequent vacationer since birth and became disabled after moving down here. I apologize for any defensiveness in my answer. I'm just trying to get the word out there that even if it looks bad, it isn't in every case, and id say most cases. There are absolutely shady people, but they're the ones exchanging step by step tutorials for likes.
Trust me i get it & didnt take it in a bad way… listen im in a similar boat with my conditions and just as concerned as you are. I was lucky to get in a couple days before the changes were made & its already been decided my daughter does not wanna come back here next year. So i have time and what im assuming yet another new or tweaked system from its current form. I am happy tho that Genie did work great again for most part so i have that yo fall back on if all else fails.
Same as 3 of our kids were denied...I could guess what we should have stressed more
and that’s the #1 point that needs to be emphasized - nobody from the disabled community should have one ounce of worry or concern that Disney will not do everything they possibly can to accommodate them.
They are accommodated. It may not be DAS but they giving out other options.
Just saying there are other accommodations does nothing to address the concerns repeatedly stressed about how to actually do anything. Nor does it automatically mean those, at times mysterious, accommodations are appropriate.
I agree that there are other accommodations. But I also concede to the fact that to the disabled, it might seem like there's not because of the lack of information and clarification they are really able to receive about these other accommodations.
Quick question. Did all three each have a DAS last time? And if so, how did that work? If your whole family had a reservation for attraction X in 45 minutes under child 1’s DAS, could your whole family also have a reservation for attraction Y in 60 minutes under child 2’s pass? Basically, could you have three different rides booked at once?
If more than 1 person has a DAS in your party they cant be attached to each other. Only Non DAS users can. So a party with multiple DAS users have to make multiple reservations for the same ride if they all want to ride it together.
