Figgy1
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Hershey and UNI it works like DAS, except now it involves 3rd party. You go to GR with proof and get access based on needWhat do other parks do for accommodation. I am curious how they handle it vs Disney.
Hershey and UNI it works like DAS, except now it involves 3rd party. You go to GR with proof and get access based on needWhat do other parks do for accommodation. I am curious how they handle it vs Disney.
Legoland and Sesame Place would most likely be the best comparisons - most parks don’t attract family audiences the way Disney does.What do other parks do for accommodation. I am curious how they handle it vs Disney.
One thing to keep in mind, is that locals who rushed to get re-approved under the old guidelines might be planning to visit the park a bunch while they still can under the old rules; unsure of how much they will be visiting after if they aren't re-approved. People with Pixie Dust Passes, are blocked out on weekends, so weekdays could see more of this type of guest. This whole conversation is about how a few people can clog up the works, so we may be seeing something like that in action.It’s a light day at every park that is not DHS. These are the only waits over 60 min on property. Rise is down, but that’s no excuse for multiple rides to be over 2 hours
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Yes- the lines at the attractions our grandchildren wanted to ride were about 60 minutes and that's a no go for me.Did you have to use DAS there?
In general, >60 min wait is a huge inflection point for me when I’m there. I’m willing to do 3-5 30-60 min waits in the middle of the day but I really try to avoid 60+ min wait and at most will do it once. At my snapshot every ride not in Pandora was less then 60 min at noon, that’s 4 hours post opening, I’ve usually ridden every ride by then (with maybe the exception of Everest) eating lunch and getting ready to watch my last show (FotLK or Nemo) and then head out. I made a decision to make the measurable >60 min wait because I feel that wait is too long for anyone.We were at AK today & I thought it was pretty crowded - not Spring Break crowded but still lots of people - more like Thanksgiving Week crowded.
No one has to understand why something is a certain way for a person in order to accept that they have the right to make that choice for themselves just as a nondisabled person does. Perhaps they will end up in pain, but they find the experience worth that risk (or inevitability).
I mentioned an inaccessible field trip to a very physical place that DD was going to earlier in this thread. Trip happened. I helped her access as much as I could, despite knowing that I'd pay for it later due to some recent health issues of my own. Sure enough, that evening I was curled up in a LOT of pain. Prescription pain med level pain. Still recovering from it multiple days later TBH.
Was it worth it? Yep. To see her laugh and enjoy the activities her friends were doing, to see her try her hand at things she knew would be very very difficult for her -worth it. I knew it would be painful for me, but I knew it would be a great experience and memory for her - and that was worth the later pain for me. There's too much she has to miss out on in life as it is. If there's anything I can do to help her access more of it, I will be all in, every time. I can appreciate others may choose differently if they were in my shoes, and that's ok - but it should be everyone's choice.
I can't speak for everyone but my back will start to hurt bad enough I need to take a break if I stand still too long. Can't explain why and it doesn't happen every time but I've never once had an issue on any ride or when sitting. I've even done a number of half marathons and not one back pain but standing around while the wife tries on cloths or in a line that doesn't move at Disney and there is a good chance it will flare up.So people have back issues and use DAS...but then get on the Kilimanjaro Safari or a rollercoaster? I'm sorry but I can see why that person could be rejected for certain rides. If you have issues that you can't stand or sit for too long, how is it good to get on a vehicle that bounces around for 20 minutes.
Right, and then one could argue that one could “choose” to wait in the line despite the pain, knowing the payoff is worth it.This whole argument is a straw man. Leaving out your personal anecdote aside there’s no way to qualify or have a system in place where everybody can now make a “choice” if they find the experience worth it.
The person posting before said they were offered a wheelchair as accommodation, but said that won't work for her, which sounds different from you where sitting is ok. I have to admit I get a little confused with thos having issues both standing or sitting too long. Could not one use a wheelchair when in line and then get out of the wheelchair line when needed and stand...while still in line? Otherwise am I to believe that people need to be in a perpetual motion when standing, and only sitting for 10 minutes at a time? How would one even eat in a restaurant in this manner?I can't speak for everyone but my back will start to hurt bad enough I need to take a break if I stand still too long. Can't explain why and it doesn't happen every time but I've never once had an issue on any ride or when sitting. I've even done a number of half marathons and not one back pain but standing around while the wife tries on cloths or in a line that doesn't move at Disney and there is a good chance it will flare up.
I'm not entirely certain but I think part of the issue is that wheelchairs have a small area for sitting and aren't particularly supportive.The person posting before said they were offered a wheelchair as accommodation, but said that won't work for her, which sounds different from you where sitting is ok. I have to admit I get a little confused with thos having issues both standing or sitting too long. Could not one use a wheelchair when in line and then get out of the wheelchair line when needed and stand...while still in line? Otherwise am I to believe that people need to be in a perpetual motion when standing, and only sitting for 10 minutes at a time? How would one even eat in a restaurant in this manner?
When my wife was pregnant she did not go on KS with the rest of us, and I’m glad she didn’t. Those warnings are there for a reason, that is a really bumpy ride.Kilimanjaro Safari is a 20 minute ride, sometimes shorter, often longer. If standing or sitting in a 20 minute line is too much(because you can't just sit as you said earlier), how can being forced to sit in a jerky vehicle for 20 minutes be tolerable? You have complained on here about autistic children being the main ones who are getting approved for DAS under the new system, which you say is due to a stronger lobbying group? So I may not be an orthopedic doc but you are a lawyer? I know someone with autism probably doesn't have ride the ride cautions effecting them, but those with back issues do. I don't need to be a doctor to know what is recommended or not.
Per Disney..
Bumpy terrain
"Disney recommends that guests be in good health and free from conditions that could be aggravated by the ride's bumpy terrain, such as high blood pressure, heart or back problems, neck problems, or motion sickness. Expectant mothers should not ride. If you have a medical condition that could be aggravated by rough" roads, you should consult your doctor.
While I am sympathetic to trying to stop cheaters, I don't think that can be done by non medically trained people observing park habits. I think it's just very hard to know.So people have back issues and use DAS...but then get on the Kilimanjaro Safari or a rollercoaster? I'm sorry but I can see why that person could be rejected for certain rides. If you have issues that you can't stand or sit for too long, how is it good to get on a vehicle that bounces around for 20 minutes.
I am not talking about whether or not they qualify for DAS. I am talking about if someone *has* already qualified for DAS, then it's not a Disney CM's place to make a decision basically saying "well, you qualified for DAS for this reason, and I don't think this ride is appropriate for you based on why you were given DAS, so no you don't get to use the accommodation on this ride."This whole argument is a straw man. Leaving out your personal anecdote aside there’s no way to qualify or have a system in place where everybody can now make a “choice” if they find the experience worth it.
I honestly don't know. I was more pointing out that for each person different things or even things that don't make a lot of sense can cause issues. I don't doubt that there are people who get uncomfortable or start to hurt either sitting or standing and my guess is they are just always in some form of pain with their goal being to minimize it as best they can.The person posting before said they were offered a wheelchair as accommodation, but said that won't work for her, which sounds different from you where sitting is ok. I have to admit I get a little confused with thos having issues both standing or sitting too long. Could not one use a wheelchair when in line and then get out of the wheelchair line when needed and stand...while still in line? Otherwise am I to believe that people need to be in a perpetual motion when standing, and only sitting for 10 minutes at a time? How would one even eat in a restaurant in this manner?
Kilamanjaro was uncomfortable for sure. That said, how would I have known if I didn't try it? I did ride FoP and it was smooth and didn't bother me. Again, how would I know unless I tried.Kilimanjaro Safari is a 20 minute ride, sometimes shorter, often longer. If standing or sitting in a 20 minute line is too much(because you can't just sit as you said earlier), how can being forced to sit in a jerky vehicle for 20 minutes be tolerable? You have complained on here about autistic children being the main ones who are getting approved for DAS under the new system, which you say is due to a stronger lobbying group? So I may not be an orthopedic doc but you are a lawyer? I know someone with autism probably doesn't have ride the ride cautions effecting them, but those with back issues do. I don't need to be a doctor to know what is recommended or not.
Per Disney..
Bumpy terrain
"Disney recommends that guests be in good health and free from conditions that could be aggravated by the ride's bumpy terrain, such as high blood pressure, heart or back problems, neck problems, or motion sickness. Expectant mothers should not ride. If you have a medical condition that could be aggravated by rough" roads, you should consult your doctor.
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