News New Changes Coming to the Disney Look 2021

Vegas Disney Fan

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Absolutely. But you start getting to difficult territory when you say this tattoo is okay but this one isn’t. This worker can’t work here anymore because they have this shade of blue hair but this worker over here is okay because theirs isn’t quite as blue but still blue.

Personally I find it depends on their role. I don’t really mind if the bar staff in my resort have a tattoo, whereas the character attendant with Cinderella covered in Star Wars tattoos stands out a little more. But again this is difficult territory that I’m sure Disney wants to avoid
The position and front of house vs back of house are absolutely huge factors also, I don’t care if the maintenance guy has a full sleeve as long as he can quickly and safely fix a ride, I don’t care if the cook has a full sleeve as long as they make a good burger, it would be shocking to see a character attendant with a full sleeve though. People are free to decorate themselves however they want, they need to realize that comes with some occupational limitations though.
 

wdrive

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The position and front of house vs back of house are absolutely huge factors also, I don’t care if the maintenance guy has a full sleeve as long as he can quickly and safely fix a ride, I don’t care if the cook has a full sleeve as long as they make a good burger, it would be shocking to see a character attendant with a full sleeve though. People are free to decorate themselves however they want, they need to realize that comes with some occupational limitations though.

I mean I’ve seen a heavily tattooed character attendant. I don’t feel they have any real policy on appearance anymore? At least on the ground it doesn’t appear so anymore. And I honestly can’t say it negatively effected my day in anyway. Caught my eye yes but as long as the employee is doing their job and is pleasant to interact with I think I’m okay with it
 

Nubs70

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The position and front of house vs back of house are absolutely huge factors also, I don’t care if the maintenance guy has a full sleeve as long as he can quickly and safely fix a ride, I don’t care if the cook has a full sleeve as long as they make a good burger, it would be shocking to see a character attendant with a full sleeve though. People are free to decorate themselves however they want, they need to realize that comes with some occupational limitations though.
The new greeter at PO French Quarter

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Vegas Disney Fan

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I think with parks open early to late not much flex to choose what shift , just 3 days availability.
That’s kind of my point though, if Disney created a day position (between 7am and 5pm) that only required 3 days a week I’d sign up in a heartbeat, I’d think that would be their toughest hours to staff anyway with many CMs being college age kids.

If they are struggling to find bodies that seems like an easy thing to do. Easier than paying more or lowering standards anyway.
 

Brian

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That’s kind of my point though, if Disney created a day position (between 7am and 5pm) that only required 3 days a week I’d sign up in a heartbeat, I’d think that would be their toughest hours to staff anyway with many CMs being college age kids.

If they are struggling to find bodies that seems like an easy thing to do. Easier than paying more or lowering standards anyway.
They have plenty of day shifts. It's just that the more senior (in terms of union seniority) CMs often bid for those, so they are placed in them, leaving new hires and younger folks with evening shifts due to lower seniority.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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As it should be!
And a true indicator of what pay a specific job requires for the employees to work it, not some arbitrary number (like $50 🤦🏼‍♂️) some politician or activist came up with that is then applied across the entire labor market.

Capitalism generally works when it’s left alone.

I can open a business tomorrow and offer $1 an hour but no one’s going to work it, or I can offer $100 an hour and be the most picky employer in the world when it comes to grooming and work standards, or find the sweet spot in between to get exactly the right combination of value and appearance.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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And a true indicator of what pay a specific job requires for the employees to work it, not some arbitrary number (like $50 🤦🏼‍♂️) some politician or activist came up with that is then applied across the entire labor market.

Capitalism generally works when it’s left alone.

I can open a business tomorrow and offer $1 an hour but no one’s going to work it, or I can offer $100 an hour and be the most picky employer in the world when it comes to grooming and work standards, or find the sweet spot in between to get exactly the right combination of value and appearance.
For Disney I totally agree - there does need to be some guardrails so people aren’t being taken advantage of but that’s beyond the scope of Disney and doesn’t apply to them.

Now if Disney Parks were run as a non-for-profit and could invest completely in the guest experience I’d love to see higher pay in many roles, like equity actors on the jungle cruise for example.

Higher paid guest relations experts would be nice too…. And maybe pay them enough they would be willing to wear the plaid vest again! Haha
 

James Alucobond

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Hence the need to drop the ‘Disney Look’. Because not enough people wanted to work for such low wages while also adhering to Disney’s rules. The alternative was raise wages and keep the old appearance rules.
I seriously don't think a dress and appearance code has very much to do with a person's willingness to accept a position at all, particularly at a level of employment where uniforms are the norm. The degree to which Disney enforces and/or punishes employees for non-adherence may result in job dissatisfaction down the line, but I think people seriously overestimate the number of people who will just do an about-face when this comes up as one of the terms of employment.
 

Lilofan

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For Disney I totally agree - there does need to be some guardrails so people aren’t being taken advantage of but that’s beyond the scope of Disney and doesn’t apply to them.

Now if Disney Parks were run as a non-for-profit and could invest completely in the guest experience I’d love to see higher pay in many roles, like equity actors on the jungle cruise for example.

Higher paid guest relations experts would be nice too…. And maybe pay them enough they would be willing to wear the plaid vest again! Haha
How the heck can guest relations cast deal with walking in brutal WDW heat still wearing that plaid vest during the summer. We did see Chris Rock , his familiar laugh and his family with a GR cast member walking on Sunset Blvd at DHS.
 

Nubs70

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What a weird way to say that. Is that your way of saying they shouldn’t ever get a raise?
Not really. Like any job offer it's here is the wage and here are the conditions. If you agree to the wage and conditions, we have an agreement to reimburse you for your time.

Merit and Time of Service increases are at the discretion of the employer and may or may not be explicitly included in the employment agreement.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I seriously don't think a dress and appearance code has very much to do with a person's willingness to accept a position at all, particularly at a level of employment where uniforms are the norm. The degree to which Disney enforces and/or punishes employees for non-adherence may result in job dissatisfaction down the line, but I think people seriously overestimate the number of people who will just do an about-face when this comes up as one of the terms of employment.
I think it limits the number of applicants more than the applicants willingness to take the job.

25 years ago a ban on tattoos may have disqualified 1% of potential applicants, today it would probably disqualify 50%.

Probably true of things like piercings and non natural hair color also, what was a rebellious look when we were joining the workforce is fairly common now.
 

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