News New Caribbean Beach Resort table service restaurant announced - Sebastian's Bistro

[HauntedPirate]

Well then lucky you, because Iger is fulfilling your wish.

But getting back to the original topic, this restaurant isn't in the parks. It's in a resort. NOT a value resort, well known for their garish, overblown, in your face cartoon icons. A MOD resort, which have always been known for their immersive and detailed decor, faithful to the theme of each resort. Look at the interior artist rendering. What says Caribbean about that room? Forget the name. Remove the posters, er "artwork", from the walls and you've got an overly bright, generic room with cheap looking formica tables and stackable chairs. Disney should be ashamed of themselves.

It goes hand-in-hand with the generic, cheap-looking room refurbs.

I seriously dislike the current "if you don't love it, then you must hate it" viewpoint which seems pandemic, especially in the US. It is certainly not conducive to civilized discussion, and only leads to rancor. Nothing in life is all black and white (except zebras and Steamboat Willie). Few things are guaranteed to rile me more than being called a hater because I disagree with one (or some) part(s) of the whole.

Couldn't agree more!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Per Guest Revenue Spending.

As long as that’s going up, no one cares.

Duh...I had a brain fart.

I thought you were you using a new acronym to refer to Cheapo Chapek’s new division.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Ugh, Disney becoming less Disney again.


Disney meant environments that were fun, quality, and surprisingly sophisticated and intricate. They took the world and produced little cute copies of it.

Now it is an embarrassing juggernaut that waves characters in front of the face of arrested development adults who giggle like a three month old at the sight of any familiar face.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Look at the interior artist rendering. What says Caribbean about that room? Forget the name. Remove the posters, er "artwork", from the walls and you've got an overly bright, generic room with cheap looking formica tables and stackable chairs. Disney should be ashamed of themselves.

Right?

It's not even that this is bad 2018 interior design (It's quite good really). It is just...so completely generic and non-descript. But with a character name and posters slapped on it! To make it distinct from the other 6400 new seafood restaurants looking just like this one.

 

[Andrew C]

Look at the interior artist rendering. What says Caribbean about that room?

Quite a bit.

 

[SteamboatJoe]

Quite a bit.

I must respectfully disagree. Change the 4 posters and swap out the chairs for something less colorful and it looks like a generic ballroom at a newly opened Renaissance Hotel.

 

[Andrew C]

I must respectfully disagree. Change the 4 posters and swap out the chairs for something less colorful and it looks like a generic ballroom at a newly opened Renaissance Hotel.

The chairs...the chandeliers. The curtains. The color pallet. The art piece in the background (looks like some sort of shell pattern?). Also, it is just one rendering of one area. I would like to see what the entire place looks like as a whole. Maybe I will change my mind once that happens, who knows.

Right now, I like it.

 

[Minnie Mum]

The chairs...the chandeliers. The curtains. The color pallet. The art piece in the background (looks like some sort of shell pattern?). Also, it is just one rendering of one area. I would like to see what the entire place looks like as a whole. Maybe I will change my mind once that happens, who knows.

Right now, I like it.

What, exactly is Caribbean themed about the Chandeliers, curtains or the room's color palette? Since when is grey and white with a bit of beige Caribbean? The only color in the room comes from some of the teal and yellow chairs (of questionable style). And the few posters on the wall. It screams more budget South Beach than Caribbean.

 

[baymenxpac]

I seriously dislike the current "if you don't love it, then you must hate it" viewpoint which seems pandemic, especially in the US. It is certainly not conducive to civilized discussion, and only leads to rancor. Nothing in life is all black and white (except zebras and Steamboat Willie). Few things are guaranteed to rile me more than being called a hater because I disagree with one (or some) part(s) of the whole.

yup, this. though it may be liberating to operate in this world without nuance, the capability for abstract thought is what quite literally makes us human.

 

[SteamboatJoe]

The chairs...the chandeliers. The curtains. The color pallet. The art piece in the background (looks like some sort of shell pattern?). Also, it is just one rendering of one area. I would like to see what the entire place looks like as a whole. Maybe I will change my mind once that happens, who knows.

I won't deny there are some good things but they are all easily replaceable parts. It's trying too hard to look like some chic, hip, urban luxury restaurant. Wanting to see the rest is fair. Perhaps I will feel differently then too.

I just expect something more like this:

Big prop, non-trendy lighting, context sensitive building materials, maintains character from floor to ceiling. The wall decor and chairs fit their surroundings. It doesn't looked forced or contrived.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

For whatever it's worth, dinner at Shutters was my only so-so meal during my last trip, and that was almost two weeks long.

The worst part of this stuff is that, if Disney has maintained pricing it had in the late 80’s/early 90’s, they could have waaay more visitors and hotel guests, but PGRS is killing P&R.

Aren't Disney hotels close to capacity all the time? Why would keeping prices low benefit them, when people are clearly willing to pay. Am I missing something?

 

[George]

I agree with PP on theme. But people want characters. Wonder of crab will be on the menu?

It will. In order for Sebastian to stay in character as a crustacean spy serving the whims of a powerful dictator, each night will start up with a show. Sebastian will round up all the aquatic animals that have been disloyal to King Triton and force each one to either swim into a net or impale themselves on a fisherman's hook. Of course there will be flounder, crab, octopi, scallions, oysters, mer-people, shrimp, etc. He'll bellow, "Death to the traitors!" as they are hauled up to their doom. He'll then turn to the hungry audience and say, "Tonight we will dine on the carcasses of disloyal subjects. Let that be a lesson to you land dwellers. Further, we now have fresh meat for my world famous restaurant. Enjoy. Infidel blood available after 10 PM on Tuesday and Thursday."

 

[Andrew C]

What, exactly is Caribbean themed about the Chandeliers, curtains or the room's color palette? Since when is grey and white with a bit of beige Caribbean? The only color in the room comes from some of the teal and yellow chairs (of questionable style). And the few posters on the wall. It screams more budget South Beach than Caribbean.

The ceiling color is a nice accent to the rest of the colors in the room and goes well with the chairs.

The chandeliers look to have some type of coral or seaweed/kelp pattern. It’s kind of hard to tell.

To me, this is a definite upgrade from shutters, with its outdated and tacky look, to something more bright and fresh with just enough tropical/beach. And I’m looking forward to seeing the rest of the space and outside of just renderings.

Hopefully the food is also an upgrade.

 

[SteamboatJoe]

It goes hand-in-hand with the generic, cheap-looking room refurbs.



Couldn't agree more!

I can at least excuse the rooms to some degree since it's a cost they have to repeat hundreds of time over in each room. Being a little more cost concious makes some sense there.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I can at least excuse the rooms to some degree since it's a cost they have to repeat hundreds of time over in each room. Being a little more cost concious makes some sense there.

I can understand the desire to keep costs down, due to the scale you rightly mention. But that doesn't mean the rooms need to look cheap and generic. I, for one, am hoping that the rooms at the CBR look more bright and colorful than white, beige, and tan.

 

[SteamboatJoe]

I can understand the desire to keep costs down, due to the scale you rightly mention. But that doesn't mean the rooms need to look cheap and generic. I, for one, am hoping that the rooms at the CBR look more bright and colorful than white, beige, and tan.

I get that. Looking at the renovated rooms at Coronado makes me sad. They look cleaner and newer but they also look a lot more generic and boring.

 

[Bocabear]

I can at least excuse the rooms to some degree since it's a cost they have to repeat hundreds of time over in each room. Being a little more cost concious makes some sense there.

I could not disagree more... The prices for this "Moderate Resort" are routinely as high as a luxury resort, they can well afford to spend a nice amount of money on the room refurbs....The hotel is almost always completely booked, there is absolutely no risk in spending more on the room and giving guests the quality and Disney Touch they are paying for...as opposed to lower grade generic furnishings and finishes. Incidently I have stayed at the Dolphin many times and the price point was lower than the WDW Moderates for a much higher quality experience.... All of this is about making things simple, cheap and serviceable as to extract the maximum possible profit while continuing to value engineer our vacation experiences...

 

[RSoxNo1]

I swear I heard someone make a joke about renaming Shutter's to Sebastian's within the last week. It very well may have been on my podcast. Gonna have to relisten to all my Disney content for the last week or two.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I swear I heard someone make a joke about renaming Shutter's to Sebastian's within the last week. It very well may have been on my podcast. Gonna have to relisten to all my Disney content for the last week or two.

You have a podcast? To talk about crabs?

 

[SteamboatJoe]

I could not disagree more... The prices for this "Moderate Resort" are routinely as high as a luxury resort, they can well afford to spend a nice amount of money on the room refurbs....The hotel is almost always completely booked, there is absolutely no risk in spending more on the room and giving guests the quality and Disney Touch they are paying for...as opposed to lower grade generic furnishings and finishes. Incidently I have stayed at the Dolphin many times and the price point was lower than the WDW Moderates for a much higher quality experience.... All of this is about making things simple, cheap and serviceable as to extract the maximum possible profit while continuing to value engineer our vacation experiences...

I said to some degree and meant in comparison to designing a one off restaurant. I did not intend to advocate for value or lower quality with moderate plus prices. I work with designers of different types so I understand the discontent for value engineering.