Nasty incident outside Club Cool at Epcot tonight

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jcs4evas1298

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The Empress Lilly said:
If you organise a booze festival, you get drunks, drunk guests and aggressive behaviour.

I wish Disney wouldn't serve alcohol at its theme parks except to go with meals in some restaurants.
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I love Food and Wine - and obviously Im not alone by seeing how busy World Showcase is during it. I also love to drink. Ive never caused a scene or barfed in bushes - but I've certainly been tipsy many times in Epcot. World Showcase is more geared towards adults - and yes even more specifically adults who enjoy drinking. Don't like it? There are plenty of other places for you to go. I hate this "I dont do it or enjoy it so Disney should get rid of it" mentality. Honestly if Disney stopped serving alcohol I'd probably vacation somewhere else that did - some of us enjoy drinking on vacation, I definitely do.

With that said - I don't have kids or particularly like them being around when I'm drinking in World Showcase. I wish Disney would stop letting kids go there. :rolleyes:
 
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jcs4evas1298

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I'd be willing to bet money that most drunken violence in Disney is by Florida locals (obviously not ALL of it - but I bet a disproportionately large amount is). Maybe the problem is Florida Residence passes are just too cheap. Instead of changing the food stand beers to shot glass sized ones, raise the price on those who are not treating Disney as a vacation, but as a bar/night club to go to every weekend and get blasted and cause trouble.
 
wdisney9000

wdisney9000

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One thing I find fascinating is that you never hear people complain about drunk people in Animal Kingdom or HS. The same people who enjoy drinking 6 beers at Epcot most likely will enjoy drinking 6 beers at Animal Kingdom when they visit. Its not like they ONLY enjoy drinking at Epcot. People hang at Dawa Bar and drink like theres no tomorrow but nobody calls it the "drunkeytown of Harambe Village". WS allows for a bit more of an cultural and emotional experience and its reflected in how people behave

Ive seen groups of women with a ring on their finger have 4 glasses of wine at Tuto Gusto and get flirty with the Italian accented bartender teaching them words in Italian. Ive seen college aged guys slam shots and eat the scorpion at La Cava then chest bump each other and high five everybody around them. Ive seen soccer team chants break out at Rose and Crown while people wave their beers left to right spilling it all over the place.

Are all these people just nutty drunks at Epcot, or just normal responsible people enjoying the atmosphere as it is intended to be? Outsiders looking in only see people drinking and judge them, for whatever reasons, probly personal.
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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jcs4evas1298 said:
I love Food and Wine - and obviously Im not alone by seeing how busy World Showcase is during it. I also love to drink. Ive never caused a scene or barfed in bushes - but I've certainly been tipsy many times in Epcot. World Showcase is more geared towards adults - and yes even more specifically adults who enjoy drinking. Don't like it? There are plenty of other places for you to go. I hate this "I dont do it or enjoy it so Disney should get rid of it" mentality. Honestly if Disney stopped serving alcohol I'd probably vacation somewhere else that did - some of us enjoy drinking on vacation, I definitely do.

With that said - I don't have kids or particularly like them being around when I'm drinking in World Showcase. I wish Disney would stop letting kids go there. :rolleyes:
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ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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I'm not advocating prohibition of alcohol sales, Disney is one of the few times of the year where I can drink (on call except on vacation) so more than one drink is verboten for me. That being said I've seen too many instances of people being over-served and puking and peeing in the bushes at WS.

Using the MB to enforce Florida's guidelines for alcohol service is not prohibition especially since many of the drinkers are DRIVING to EPCOT to drink, I'd love to see the results of a sobriety roadblock outside of EPCOT I think the results would be embarrassing to DIsney.

As to personal responsibility well the first thing that Alcohol does is lower inhibitions so that one's a non starter except for those of us who are on on-call and have alcohol rules which go along with the job.
 
cldwv

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IMO, the MB already knows too much about me. Ever look at the photos disney takes in the parks and wonder how "it" knew you were on a certain ride? Sure, when you have a FP you have to MB in so obv it kwows you're there. But how about all the others you randomly ride? I've seen numerous photos where I've literally said to myself, how did they know it was me and how did it know I was on that ride.

Using MBs to monitor or enforce how many drinks I've bought is ridiculous.
 
TeriofTerror

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wdisney9000 said:
Thats awesome. I got hammered with my Dad and brother one evening around WS and we decided to cap it off with tequila shots. Needless to say it was a rough walk to get to the bus stop.

When we got to the bus stop my brother and I went to the Coronado stop and my Dad went to a different bus stop. My brother and I kept yelling for him to join us before the bus got there. Funny thing was we were all staying at Beach Club. Luckily my Dad realized where we were before we all got on the wrong bus. We still laugh about that night.
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Wait, wait, wait. You were staying at the Beach Club, and thought your best transportation option from WS was to walk all the way through FW and then catch a bus? Dude, that's alcohol poisoning levels of intoxication there. Particularly because I don't believe there is bus transportation between the Beach Club and Epcot. ;)
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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The problem is a common one at any large venue, You have multiple physical walkup locations so it's easily possible for a patron to go to multiple locations and purchase alcohol at each leading to a over-serving problem.

It would be better for Disney to address this now than the inevitable accident with a busload of kids injured by an over-served EPCOT WS patron. No it has not happened YET but it WILL happen.

Several universities have on-campus pubs, When you enter your ID is checked and you are issued a scannable band allows the barkeep to keep serving you as long as you keep your consumption within state/local guidelines,

Disney could do this with MB and it would save you from needing multiple ID checks especially if you are on the younger side. Will it prevent all abuse no - will it prevent a band switch no.

If you want to get hammered - go to a dive bar which specializes in that don't bring it to EPCOT.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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wdisney9000 said:
One thing I find fascinating is that you never hear people complain about drunk people in Animal Kingdom or HS. The same people who enjoy drinking 6 beers at Epcot most likely will enjoy drinking 6 beers at Animal Kingdom when they visit. Its not like they ONLY enjoy drinking at Epcot. People hang at Dawa Bar and drink like theres no tomorrow but nobody calls it the "drunkeytown of Harambe Village". WS allows for a bit more of an cultural and emotional experience and its reflected in how people behave

Ive seen groups of women with a ring on their finger have 4 glasses of wine at Tuto Gusto and get flirty with the Italian accented bartender teaching them words in Italian. Ive seen college aged guys slam shots and eat the scorpion at La Cava then chest bump each other and high five everybody around them. Ive seen soccer team chants break out at Rose and Crown while people wave their beers left to right spilling it all over the place.

Are all these people just nutty drunks at Epcot, or just normal responsible people enjoying the atmosphere as it is intended to be? Outsiders looking in only see people drinking and judge them, for whatever reasons, probly personal.
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Thing is you don't SEE the out of control drunks at AK, What I have seen is security 'escorting' inebriated patrons out of the park, I think because of the animals at AK they take a much harder line there because the risk of a human-animal 'incident'.

DHS you see the occasional individual with too much of the joy juice in them actually saw quite a few at the Villians Unleashed event.
 
wdisney9000

wdisney9000

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TeriofTerror said:
Wait, wait, wait. You were staying at the Beach Club, and thought your best transportation option from WS was to walk all the way through FW and then catch a bus? Dude, that's alcohol poisoning levels of intoxication there. Particularly because I don't believe there is bus transportation between the Beach Club and Epcot. ;)
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Picture an empty bust stop area at Epcot with three grown men standing in random areas waiting to board a bus that will never arrive (since BC has no bus stop). My Dads version of the story is hilarious because he always glorifies himself as the hero since he was the one who realized we made a mistake. My Mom gladly reminds him that after returning to the room he went to get a soda but somehow wound up in the laundry facility by the quiet pool and called her asking if he was supposed to do laundry. He conveniently cant remember that part.

In all fairness, it was the first trip in several years that my Dad, brother and I had all been down at the same time so we partied like champions and we were maintaining a respectable level of intoxication... right up util the tequila shots, lol
 
wdisney9000

wdisney9000

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ford91exploder said:
The ones running up to people and getting in their faces smelling of beer.
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Ive encountered a few folks like that. While its annoying, Id say its a far cry from 'out of control'. Not being argumentative, just saying that it may be a slight overreaction to label it that way. I do agree there are a few folks who drink and get a little rowdy, but its not like you see it on a daily basis. I see it more often at a local restaurant or bar and far less at a Disney park.
 
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