hiptwinmama
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thank you so much for sharing... that made my day. I miss the old image works.
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Mystery Project at Epcot
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thank you so much for sharing... that made my day. I miss the old image works.
alphac2005
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Martin, great post as always. Speaking of the EPCOT Center vault, I spoke to a very old friend of mine yesterday and he's not any sort of hardcore theme park guy, but he was telling me that about the trip that his family took down to ORL last month and that they went to Epcot for the day.
He said it made him downright mad how bad it is today and that they only real thing left is Spaceship Earth, but to him, it was always the least of the grand pavilions. He further went on a small rant saying that all the tourists that have never been before, seemed as though they thought it was so great, and that they had no idea of how great it once was. He then talked about things being dirty and that he won't be visiting again because, his quote, "It's not worth the money." That says it all. The guy last visited Epcot in '02 when we were living in ORL and apparently, Disney isn't impressing this guy anymore. He wasn't thrilled with it then compared to before, but he really felt that it had gone off the rails now.
Wikkler
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He'd probably also be dissappointed that EPCOT was turned into a theme park and Disney World isn't a city.
willtravel
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I am not trying to create an arguement, but I don't think WDW management cares what we feel. There will always be some tourist to turn the turnstiles. I am from the old school of Disney and as many here have seen great and terrible changes (depending on your view). But as my husband says, it is what it is..... And if you don't like it (saying to me) don't go. Epcot park saddens me the most. So much potential and sssooo waisted of space now. And quality vs. dollar has highly come in to play. I think WDW is evolving out of what I like (my taste) and liked to something that will send me to a different destination. And I am not talking about another theme park. I know, more room for everyone else. But I understand what your friend feels.
HMF
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Just out of curiousity from 94 till 98 was there a "Follow Figment to HISTA" sign as with the other two shows.
alphac2005
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You're very correct and it's one of the ongoing themes that we have on the threads here. No matter how poor of a product that they put out compared to before, they have the turnstiles full of customers and don't care unless the bottom line is hit. For our family, we're done with spending money at WDW and whether it's Universal, Disneyland (where quality matters vs. Orlando), or overseas, that's where our money is going.
the.dreamfinder
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One day I would love to see Tony Baxter's JII 4.0 concept.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
As a fellow Canadian, I can say this - Tom Green is an idiot!
I totally agree that it would be too ambitious for Disney. It would be really great for them to further nuclear power acceptance in the US, though. Politics has really hurt nuclear power over the years, mostly due to gross misunderstandings and misinterpretations that have been generated in politicians and the general public.
From my nuclear engineering background, there are tons of solutions to issues like Yucca Mountain. The reactor plants that we are just beginning to build again are two generations removed from the ones we currently use. From a more philosophical point of view, the US lost a whole generation of public opinion to the incident at Three Mile Island. Chernobyl can never happen in the US because our reactors are of a completely different design, but many don't realize that. Fukushima was bad, but represents a perfect storm of a big earthquake (that didn't hurt the reactor), a huge tsunami (which didn't hurt the reactor), and a massive power outage across Japan (which hurt the reactor in that cooling water pumps needed external power and were therefore offline).
I hope our generation is smarter than our parents and grandparents, and that we don't demonize nuclear power because of Fukushima, especially if we really want greener power. Nuclear has to be part of our energy bridge to the future (where have I heard that one before?). Wind, solar, and hydroelectric are great, but don't represent a steady state of power production like nuclear, natural gas, and coal. If we want to use less natural gas and coal, nuclear has to be the fallback.
There is so much I can talk on this, but I am going to cut myself off.
ChrisM
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But he can freestyle rap like a pro. Dude has some serious flow.
PeterAlt
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Yeah, but that's why he's funny. I recommend watching his stand up routine on NetFlix. He ends it by reminiscing his career - how it went up and then down to the point where he is now - doing stand up at college campus, making jokes that take jabs at his career downfall. Not what I expected at all from him. He was actually quiet funny and some of his jokes were actually quite smart. Some of his act even made me think about things. So, this is not your typical Tom Green. It's an older, wiser Tom Green, whose thankful he had what he had, and one who realizes that he made some stupid decisions later on in his career. When he talked about his movie Freddy Got Fingered, he even said "What the f@@@ was I thinking?"
He didn't talk about this, but did you know he paired up with Drew Barrymore? She said after Freddy Got Fingered didn't do so well, he got real depressed and used drugs heavily. He at one point got so bad that Drew didn't want anything to do him again.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
I am sympathetic. My father is an environmental compliance counsel for Westinghouse working on a few nuclear projects. The past few years we has working on the re-grouting of SRS's storage tanks (a high priority since the Yucca repository fell through).
It was interesting to hear his co-workers during Fukushima, many nuclear engineers, absolutely tear the news media reporting to shreds with facts.
lazyboy97o
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The incident at Fukushima occurred after the new reactors at Plant Vogtle had been approved and land prep was already underway. It was mind numbing to hear the local news reports talking at the time about "new concerns" over how the new reactors at Plant Vogtle would survive an earthquake and/or a tsunami. An earthquake I can sort of understand, but Plant Vogtle is about 100 miles inland. If a tsunami is big enough to become a concern for the plant then we've got much bigger problems!
englanddg
One Little Spark...
You are in the Augusta area? And yeah, the plant is built very near a fault line that runs right through Downtown Augusta (you can even drive down Broad Street and see earthquake damage (though many would think it's faulty foundations...fascinating to see the universal fault cracks on some of the older buildings closer to 12th Street).
lazyboy97o
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No. Atlanta.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Ah. So, by local, you mean the Journal/Constitution? I didn't follow their coverage, and I don't watch the local news channels...so, I really wasn't sure what they said about it.
And ditto. Also Atlanta. Just outside the NE Perimeter. Nice to meet 'cha!
<shakes hands>
lazyboy97o
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englanddg
One Little Spark...
I only knew about it through my Dad (who consulted on the project)...the first thing to pop in my mind was, I hope GA Power lowers the rates after it's built! (fat chance, I know)...
Yeah, the news coverage was so incredibly sensationalized. Again, it wasn't the earthquake or the tsunami that did the real damage to the reactors, it was the loss of electrical power to the generators as a result of the tsunami that allowed the reactors to overheat.
Compliance counsel for Westinghouse at Savannah River sounds really neat. Very important work.
As for the new cores at Plant Vogtle, you guys are absolutely right: the new reactors are designed to withstand significant earthquakes, and if a tsunami gets 100 miles inland we have MUCH bigger problems than a nuclear reactor...much. It would be really hard for a natural disaster to recreate the Fukushima disaster here in the US.